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Resident libs...cancel culture and MLK

Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:41 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:41 am
As judged by the liberal progressive zealots, his views on homosexuality should be seen as quite damning. Should his monument, all of the statues related to his likeness, and street names be removed?

Yes or no?

I asked coonasswhodat to comment, as he fully supports the removal of statues, but he lacked the integrity to comment on MLK.

So what about it libs, is it time to bring down all things MLK?

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:45 am to
Dunno. But I’d sure AF cancel Yale.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26774 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:46 am to
get a bulldozer in DC at the base of the MLK statue which is ironically carved out of white stone. place the blade at the base..... and see how quick they decide they really don't want all statues removed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:47 am to
You’re applying logic to an illogical or even a-logical movement.

Stop reasoning with them.
Posted by WallsAllAroundMe
Member since Jan 2016
1064 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:57 am to
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This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 6:20 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34006 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 8:57 am to
quote:

You’re applying logic to an illogical or even a-logical movement. Stop reasoning with them.


I just want them to answer the question.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56204 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:01 am to
quote:

You’re applying logic to an illogical or even a-logical movement.

Stop reasoning with them.

This is the only position.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21440 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:02 am to
Adulterous preacher. Adulterers offend me. Take the statues down.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:02 am to
quote:

I just want them to answer the question.


Their framework doesn’t allow your question to penetrate their mind. I suspect a deprogramming expert could help.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139779 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:04 am to
Why don’t you know about MLK?

Too inconvenient?
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22058 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:08 am to
quote:

his views on homosexuality should be seen as quite damning.

what were they?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:09 am to
And one I thought of today - Ali. Ali was a strident segregationist.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12640 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:23 am to
Release the Jackie Kennedy tapes, Hoover tapes, etc
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Why don’t you know about MLK?


Well, I never really thought about it. And, I haven’t had a chance to research his views on homosexuality.

Mind if I do some thinking and research instead of vomiting out a reaction?

As to your underlying theme — where do you draw the line? — that bears discussion. There is a point of absurdity. Where you place it depends on your point of view.

I have thought about Yale. If you are going to pull Lee’s name off stuff, you damn sure should take down old Elihu’s statue.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34006 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Well, I never really thought about it. And, I haven’t had a chance to research his views on homosexuality.



I will help you then.

His quote to a conflicted gay youth...

quote:
Your problem is not at all an uncommon one. However, it does require careful attention. The type of feeling that you have toward boys is probably not an innate tendency, but something that has been culturally acquired. Your reasons for adopting this habit have now been consciously suppressed or unconsciously repressed. Therefore, it is necessary to deal with this problem by getting back to some of the experiences and circumstances that lead to the habit. In order to do this I would suggest that you see a good psychiatrist who can assist you in bringing to the forefront of conscience all of those experiences and circumstances that lead to the habit. You are already on the right road toward a solution, since you honestly recognize the problem and have a desire to solve it.


Gay is just a bad habit. Who knew.

That doesn’t include being a supposed womanizer whom allegedly was privy to a rape.

Tear it down?
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:10 am to
quote:

If you are going to pull Lee’s name off stuff, you damn sure should take down old Elihu’s statue.



Need to remove Rice's name off of Rice University. His will explicitly stated that the university would be "whites only".
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10188 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:15 am to
MLK...
quote:

Should his monument, all of the statues related to his likeness, and street names be removed?









You best be checking that privilege baw!
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Gay is just a bad habit. Who knew.


Well, offhand I do not see that as the moral (or immoral) equivalent of Elihu Yale's slave trading.

But I take your point.

The larger question is this: Many people who are deeply flawed have done significant and real things that have benefitted society at large. Which of those things do we forgive by continuing to honor them?

It is not an easy question. Right now, a significant part of our nation believes that we should not honor men who owned slaves or fought for the South in the Civil War. That is just where we are. And I don't disagree with it.

How far do you go down that trail? I do not know. But given the history (at least my version of it) of such efforts, it will likely go too far before the pendulum swings back. I don't see the "overswing" being all that harmful to our nation in the long run.

This weekend, I will recite the Declaration from memory. I do it every year. The words still stir me. This magnificent call to freedom was written (at least in first draft) by a man who owned 600 slaves and had sexual relations with at least one woman he owned.

America is an idea, not a man or a woman. I can honor the idea without needing statues of the sometimes terrible people who articulated the concept of liberty and brought it into being. Take down every statute of every person who ever had a statue. That won't really change America at all.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 11:13 am
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7242 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:26 am to
quote:

The type of feeling that you have toward boys is probably not an innate tendency, but something that has been culturally acquired. Your reasons for adopting this habit have now been consciously suppressed or unconsciously repressed.


Sounds like MLK didn't believe it to be genetic or "the way you were born." Yep, that should have that rainbow community up in arms.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141632 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:27 am to
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Do you realize how many streets and interstates they would have to rename, and how many drug deals would have to be moved?
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