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re: Reproductive Rights Discussion - Men get a raw deal
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:48 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:48 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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I've had MANY friends suggest that it is unfair that blacks seem to get harsher sentences in criminal outcomes. I simply counter with "it has been very easy for me to avoid being arrested. Thus, I do not place myself into that 'unfair' decision tree"
You're not going to build any street cred that way.
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:49 am to Ace Midnight
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You're not going to build any street cred
Truth
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:50 am to MagicCityBlazer
quote:You've said this repeatedly. When a person does this, he or she is a bitch.
It is not a fair system, and it needs to change.
You and I both know that you'll do nothing about this and you're going to lie down on this issue and deal with it the rest of your life. Doing that and complaining about it makes you nothing but a little bitch.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:52 am to Taxing Authority
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If a woman can terminate her pregnancy because she can't be bothered, a man should be able to terminate his financial duty to the child, because he can't be bothered.
I am pro-choice and I agree with this.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:52 am to MagicCityBlazer
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How is it that between two equals one has responsibility (the man), and the other has the choices (the woman).
Neither of you have any responsibility (meaning legal, financial) UNTIL the child is born alive.
And, UNTIL that child is born and outside of the mother....you ain't "equally" in this thing.
Its like the Chicken and the Pig in a ham and eggs breakfast: The Chicken is "involved"...the Pig is COMMITTED.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:53 am to ballscaster
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You should be the one to change. That would be the best solution to this.
You are obviously appalled that the op has questioned this aspect of our society, yet refuse to address the irrationalities he has pointed out. You are adding nothing to this thread.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:54 am to ballscaster
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ou've said this repeatedly. When a person does this, he or she is a bitch.
Great argument.
Tell me why the current system should stay the same, or just admit you can't defend it.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:55 am to MagicCityBlazer
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Tell me why the current system should stay the same, or just admit you can't defend it.
I do think the woman should have more of a say, but I do agree that the men should have some say as well.
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 11:55 am
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:55 am to ballscaster
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bitch.
Kinda hung up on this word aren't you. It's in your posts and in your sig quote. Nice way to make your point.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:57 am to taylork37
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I do think the woman should have more of a say, but I do agree that the men should have some say as well.
Women have nearly all the say currently.
The man has the choice of cash, check, or garnishment.
If women can walk away from being a mother with a unilateral abortion I want a similar process for men without requiring female permission.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:03 pm to MagicCityBlazer
quote:I don't have to do either, because we both know that you're not man enough to do anything about this. The most you'll ever do is sit on a message board and b____ about it. That's all you'll ever do. You'll lie down and take it like a b____ for the rest of your life.
Tell me why the current system should stay the same, or just admit you can't defend it.
Won't you.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:04 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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If women can walk away from being a mother with a unilateral abortion I want a similar process for men without requiring female permission.
I'll try to be more clear in MY position. Note: I am not claiming I have the "correct" one. Just mine.
1) Two attractive young people are walking around and do not know one another.
Now, She can give her egg to someone or let it pass unfertilized and flush it down the toilet
He can give his sperm to anyone or just spill it in the shower.
2) They meet by chance and have sex ending in fertilization.
Now, She has a "tissue mass" in her. She can decide to keep it or have it removed. She owes nothing to the "mass". Nor, does she owe the dude visitation rights to the mass.
He has nothing in him and owes her NOTHING at this point.
3) She decides to give birth. NOW, both owe something to that child. SHE owes that child support AND owes the dude visitation rights to said child. She owes him some duty in decisions about that child
He owes support to that child.
So, UNTIL the child is born....NEITHER owes anything. Once that child is born...they BOTH have a legal obligation to it.
There is no inequality here.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:05 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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The man has no rights,
He has a right to keep it in his pants.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:05 pm to ballscaster
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we both know that you're not man enough to do anything about this.
If I didn't question this horrible system I wouldn't be a man. How dare you question that.
It would be like questioning how feminine a woman was for having a career.
You aren't going to shut down debate with such a sexist technique.
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right to keep it in your pants
I suppose we should just be celibate because the first physical relationship with a woman you aren't her equal anymore should anything happen.
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:26 pm to MagicCityBlazer
quote:And you aren't going to do anything about this because you aren't man enough. You and I both know this. Admit it. You aren't man enough to take action.
If I didn't question this horrible system I wouldn't be a man. How dare you question that.
It would be like questioning how feminine a woman was for having a career.
You aren't going to shut down debate with such a sexist technique.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:28 pm to ballscaster
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You aren't man enough
What a terrible slur if someone with the username 'ballscaster' doesn't think I am man enough.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:31 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Now, She has a "tissue mass" in her.
BHP - I know you don't want to go down this path, but combining the above, and
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So, UNTIL the child is born
might lead one to conclude you have defined the problem away, in order to justify a particular practice.
In your mind, does the "tissue mass" have any rights, whatsoever, until it breathes room air? And, if so, what is so magical about that act?
(If I misinterpreted your position, I apologize.)
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:35 pm to MagicCityBlazer
quote:It's a fact that you're not man enough. You know it. You're too weak. You can't do it. You don't have what it takes. You're going to lie down and just take it for the rest of your life, and there's nothing you can do about it, ever.
'ballscaster' doesn't think I am man enough.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:37 pm to TN Bhoy
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He has a right to keep it in his pants.
A women should have a right to keep their legs closed.
There are a lot of white knights on this thread.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 12:38 pm to ballscaster
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It's a fact that you're not man enough. You know it. You're too weak. You can't do it. You don't have what it takes. You're going to lie down and just take it for the rest of your life, and there's nothing you can do about it, ever.
This is what man hatred looks like.
This is what misandry looks like.
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