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re: Rep. Lauren Boebert Calls Separation of Church and State 'Junk,' Says Church Should Direct

Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Frank Black
the dawn of the new millenium
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:38 pm to
She's wrong, and the majority of Conservatives do not agree with her
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5735 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:39 pm to
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AggieHank86


Like frogs after a rainstorm or flies to sh..

BTW, Buckley was a fraud.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
2876 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:40 pm to
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This may be the dumbest interpretation of the first amendment that I have ever seen.


You seem to have the modern interpretaion down pat. Maybe you should read what they actually thought.

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This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 3:42 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:44 pm to
81 million morons.

Yes?

How many morons voted for Lauren?

More than 81 million or less?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52749 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:44 pm to
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No. Just read excerpts inna half dozen different places, all containing identical quotes.


Did you notice how those half dozen different places have word for word identical articles?
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15839 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:46 pm to
Someone linked the video in an earlier post.

"But it was only 12 seconds out of a 2 hour speech."

Lol.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:46 pm to
So you think this is a coordinated effort to spread a fake story?

OK

We will see whether (a) she denies it and/or (b) video surfaces. My money is on (b).

EDIT TO ADD

Here is the video. I can think of very few things more nauseating than listening to that dimwit for more than an hour, so you can certainly take a look at it at it and let us know whether all those media outlets are falsifying that quote.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42108 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:49 pm to
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"The church is supposed to direct the government, the government is not supposed to direct the church."

I think what she meant is that the people who make up the church (as well as all citizens) are supposed to direct the government. I don't think this was an actual call for the church organization to be directing the government.
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
13814 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:49 pm to
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How about not worry about red v blue


How about frick you, you’re nothing more than a pretentious douche bag that thinks he’s more intelligent than everyone else. You’re a poor man’s Hank
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15839 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:51 pm to
The link is on the second page.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:52 pm to
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Someone linked the video in an earlier post. "But it was only 12 seconds out of a 2 hour speech."


Yeah. The other hour gives context as to what she is addressing when she says “church” and “government” and when the church should direct the government.

She was directly addressing churches being shut down (in opposition to the 1st Amendment) for Covid restrictions. And that it happened because there wasn’t an Esther who went to the King and broke the law to stand up for her people.

You’re borderline retarded. But I’m posting for the rest of the thread readers.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 3:59 pm
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15839 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:53 pm to
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I don't think this was an actual call for the church organization to be directing the government.


I mean, that's exactly what she said. And threw shade on Jefferson's letter.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:53 pm to
The quotes happen around 1:27:00 in.

Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
13814 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:55 pm to
Why aren’t you ever in threads when your people are saying shite like build back better is going to bring down inflation?

Or whenever it came out that Trump didn’t collude with Russia?

Or whenever Hunter is laundering money through art?

Or when AOC took pictures with a professional photographer at the border?
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15427 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:56 pm to
Not a great idea. Liberal churches should not govern anything much like liberal individuals.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
4289 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:56 pm to
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She has to have just said the wrong words, right?

Like, she believes religion can influence the government.
While I don't at all want this country to be a theocracy, religion has 100% influenced our government. A lot of the principles of the Constitution were largely taken directly from the Bible.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:56 pm to
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I don't think this was an actual call for the church organization to be directing the government.


She’s speaking in a non-denominational independent church and I believe she attends one as well.

It’s unclear how Cornerstone Church of Basalt, Colorado (which appears to number about 100 people) would take over the Federal Government.

But there are some mighty scared people about it in this thread.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15839 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:57 pm to
In the other hour, did she defend refuting Jefferson's letter? Or his stance?
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
2876 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:57 pm to
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And threw shade on Jefferson's letter.


Jeffersons letter was to a group of baptists.

It has no more meaning to the bill of rights than does the declaration of independence.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52749 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 3:57 pm to
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She's wrong, and the majority of Conservatives do not agree with her



Wrong. Majority of Christians agree with what she said. So 808 gave us the link.

LINK

She starts speaking at the 37 minute mark. The comment is at the 1:26:30 mark through 1:27:45 i believe.

As with all liberals, all of the context is stripped out.

So what Lauren is saying right before this, she is referencing Ester in the Bible. Lauren was talking about the call to action, and Esther said "i won't remain silent any longer".

LINK

quote:

“There is a certain people dispersed among the peoples in all the provinces of your kingdom who keep themselves separate. Their customs are different from those of all other people, and they do not obey the king’s laws; it is not in the king’s best interest to tolerate them. If it pleases the king, let a decree be issued to destroy them, and I will give ten thousand talents of silver to the king’s administrators for the royal treasury.” So the king took his signet ring from his finger and gave it to Haman…, the enemy of the Jews. “Keep the money,” the king said to Haman, “and do with the people as you please”


quote:

Dispatches were sent by couriers to all the king’s provinces with the order to destroy, kill and annihilate all the Jews — young and old, women and children — on a single day, …and to plunder their goods


Esther speaks out against the King's plan, knowing the penalty was death. God intervened and saved the Jews and Esther. The moral of the story, is that by not speaking out against evil, you could condemn the innocent.

Therefore, Lauren stated that the Church should govern, not the state. Meaning, when the State (fedgov) is corrupt and evil, we must speak out (overturning Roe) no matter what it costs, and that the righteousness of Christianity is what rules the world, not bureacracies.

I'm going to bet that no one here watched the full video.
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