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Reminder: The "dossier" was a total fiction

Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:05 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:05 pm
there was no piss party with prostitutes, Trumps lawyer was in the US at the time the dossier said, etc.

nothing but more sky screamer fan fiction.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37472 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:11 pm to
And the board libs were jerking themselves silly over it. What a bunch of idiots
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:12 pm to
There are what, 2 or 3 pieces of exculpatory evidence?

Why havent the rest of the alibis/contradictions/falsehoods been made public?

Maybe there aren't any? When you remove the impossible, whatever remains...
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101267 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:13 pm to
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And the board libs were jerking themselves silly over it. What a bunch of idiots


And they are doing the same thing over a book that the ACTUAL AUTHOR is blatantly admitting is fiction.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73210 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:13 pm to
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There are what, 2 or 3 pieces of exculpatory evidence?


Its more like zero but you can still have hope
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13966 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:14 pm to
So if you can't prove it false it must be true? Even in the circumstances that it was the tool to do some shady stuff? That's some mental gymnastics there.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29134 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:16 pm to
So can someone do a cliffnotes on why the dossier matters for me? I know the golden showers bit but beyond that what's the political ramifications of it currently.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9894 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Its more like zero but you can still have hope


Yeah, I don't think you know what exculpatory evidence is.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9894 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:20 pm to
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So can someone do a cliffnotes on why the dossier matters for me? I know the golden showers bit but beyond that what's the political ramifications of it currently.


quote:

Among other assertions, three sources in the Orbis report describe a multi-year effort by Russian authorities to cultivate, support and assist Donald Trump.

According to the account, the Kremlin provided Trump with intelligence on his political primary opponents and access to potential business deals in Russia.

Perhaps more importantly, Russia had offered to provide potentially compromising material on Hillary Clinton, consisting of bugged conversations during her travels to Russia, and evidence of her viewpoints that contradicted her public positions on various issues.

The report also alleged that the internal Russian intelligence service (FSB) had developed potentially compromising material on Trump, to include details of “perverted sexual acts” which were arranged and monitored by the FSB.

Specifically, the compromising material, according to this entry in the report, included an occasion when Trump hired the presidential suite at a top Moscow hotel which had hosted President and Mrs. Obama, and employed prostitutes to defile the bed where the President had slept.

Four separate sources also described “unorthodox” and embarrassing behavior by Trump over the years that the FSB believed could be used to blackmail the then presidential candidate.

The report stated that Russian President Putin was supportive of the effort to cultivate Trump, and the primary aim was to sow discord and disunity within the U.S. and the West. The dossier of FSB-collected information on Hillary Clinton was managed by Kremlin chief spokesman Dimitry Peskov.

Subsequent reports provide additional detail about the conspiracy, which includes information about cyber-attacks against the U.S. They allege that Paul Manafort managed the conspiracy to exploit political information on Hillary Clinton in return for information on Russian oligarchs outside Russia, and an agreement to “sideline” Ukraine as a campaign issue.

Trump campaign operative Carter Page is also said to have played a role in shuttling information to Moscow, while Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, reportedly took over efforts after Manafort left the campaign, personally providing cash payments for Russian hackers.

In one account, Putin and his aides expressed concern over kick-backs of cash to Manafort from former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, which they feared might be discoverable by U.S. authorities. The Kremlin also feared that the U.S. might stumble onto the conspiracy through the actions of a Russian diplomat in Washington, Mikhail Kalugin, and therefore had him withdrawn, according to the reports.

By late fall 2016, the Orbis team reported that a Russian-supported company had been “using botnets and porn traffic to transmit viruses, plant bugs, steal data and conduct ‘altering operations’ against the Democratic Party leadership.” Hackers recruited by the FSB under duress were involved in the operations.

According to the report, Carter Page insisted that payments be made quickly and discreetly, and that cyber operators should go to ground and cover their tracks.


Summary of Steele Dossier
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:24 pm to
And the dossier was the basis for the Mueller investigation into Trump campaign ties to Russia

The democrats thought they'd never lose and none of this would ever come out

Hang em all and Hang em High, real high!
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:26 pm to
Sorta like your post regarding chapter 25 this morning?

Notice you never returned to that thread.

Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9894 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

And the dossier was the basis for the Mueller investigation into Trump campaign ties to Russia


Apparently not. This is what Glenn Simpson says the FBI told Steele.

Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
4666 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:51 pm to
They believed that there was an internal source... some people believe in the tooth fairy but those believers got money from said tooth fairy.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

there was no piss party with prostitutes


quote:

The "dossier" was a total fiction by CptBengal


You know a dossier typically contains more than one page, claim, fact, etc?

Parts of the dossier were corroborative of information made known to the FBI by other sources.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12816 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:57 pm to
Keep dreaming, loon
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Keep dreaming, loon
Keep bitching and whining when I piss into your bubble. It obviously dissuades me.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:58 pm to
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Parts of the dossier were corroborative of information made known to the FBI by other sources.




the same FBI that read 30k emails in 48 hours? Claimed there was nothing classified, then Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch got them through FOIA and POOF, classified emails?

that FBI? lol.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37472 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:59 pm to
Lib trash and their pee pee dossier...

Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:59 pm to
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And the dossier was the basis for the Mueller investigation into Trump campaign ties to Russia


I believe it was the other way around. I think they illegally surveyed the Trump campaign and then created the Dossier to cover their tracks, ultimately resulting in Muller.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 5:00 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:59 pm to
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the same FBI that read 30k emails in 48 hours? Claimed there was nothing classified, then Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch got them through FOIA and POOF, classified emails? that FBI? lol.
Notwithstanding your typical deflections, obfuscations, and fantastical utterances, there is only one FBI in the U.S. So yes, the same FBI.
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