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re: Regime change how is that possible without boots on the ground

Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by Riverside
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:30 pm to
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Nothing CLOSE to regime-toppling.


The uprising in 2012 nearly did. Obama did nothing except send pallets of cash.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
25961 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:31 pm to
I thought we hated CIA coups?

You know like the one in Ukraine.

Posted by Macktheknife680
Member since Jun 2025
181 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:33 pm to
Honestly I consider myself divorced from this government. I don’t really care what they do because I have no say but I hope none of our innocent people die and I hope our masters that clearly want this thing do and they fall on their own sword. I want nothing to do with it
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 5:41 pm
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:33 pm to
It’s highly unlikely that meaningful political change could happen in Iran under the current conditions. The leadership, particularly the Supreme Leader and the clerical establishment, maintains an iron grip on the country. The military—especially the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)—is deeply loyal to the regime and acts as both an enforcer and a power base. Meanwhile, the media is tightly controlled, and online discourse is heavily monitored, with dissent quickly suppressed.

Over the past decade, the government has systematically dismantled or absorbed any oppositional political movements, civil society groups, or reformist factions that could pose a challenge. Any attempts at organizing dissent—whether through protests, political activism, or online campaigns—have been met with arrests, censorship, or worse.

If the Ayatollah were to die or step down, power wouldn’t automatically shift to the people. More likely, the IRGC and hardline clerics would consolidate control, potentially ushering in a military-theocratic regime that’s even less tolerant of dissent. In short, the current structure is designed to ensure continuity of control, not democratic transition.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:33 pm to
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Regime change how is that possible without boots on the ground


1) Ayatollah Khamenei is 86yo.
2) Israel has assassinated a fair deal of the power brokers who would be involved in solidifying the next Ayatollah.
3) The assassinations are likely to continue
4) Consolidation of power is going to be murky when Khamenei dies and he will likely die sooner or later by force or natural causes.

That’s why it is possible without boots on the ground. How it gets steered is the clandestine ops uncertainty.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 5:41 pm
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:35 pm to
Did you want Obama to send troops in 2012?
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:36 pm to
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It was a threat to tell them to get their shite together.
And what if they call Trump on his threat?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8021 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:36 pm to
The CIA doesn’t need to do anything.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:37 pm to
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2) Israel has assassinated a fair deal of the power brokers who would be involved in solidifying the next Ayatollah.


Then let Israel execute a regime change with THEIR boots on the ground.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8021 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:38 pm to
Of course not, but we should have given material aid and support. Of course, Obama was closer to the Mullahs ideologically than to Israel and the United States.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5343 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:40 pm to
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Then let Israel execute a regime change with THEIR boots on the ground.


I think both sides of the aisle would agree with this.
Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
1066 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:40 pm to
We love CIA coups when the right people tell us to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170141 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:40 pm to
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The Iranian people want a regime change. That’s how. The regime crushed the last uprising because Biden refused to do anything at all to assist. A few more targeted air raids and the people will change the regime.

Or unify with the current regime. We don't know how this plays out. But a common enemy is a unifying force even with unpopular regimes. There are countless recent examples including here in the United States and in Israel to point to.
Posted by Macktheknife680
Member since Jun 2025
181 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:41 pm to
Obama also did as his Jew masters demanded prerequisite for sitting there so it’s a moot point
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5343 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:43 pm to
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When we committed acts of war and then the president told them they had to unconditionally surrender.


We did not commit acts of war.
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Or are you trying to point out that yet another government official has abused the use of the word "emergency" to bypass the US Constitution since only congress can declare war?


When did we declare war?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
10842 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:44 pm to
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We love CIA coups when the right people tell us to


Given how well Mossad has infiltrated Iran, I would assume they’re the lead on that operation with CIA just providing intel.
Posted by Macktheknife680
Member since Jun 2025
181 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:45 pm to
So you’re admitting you know this is a false flag? For what purpose
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
542 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:48 pm to
Like what kind of “aid and support” that wouldn’t involve the military?
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5343 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:48 pm to
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So you’re admitting you know this is a false flag?


What false flag do you speak of?

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For what purpose


I do not know. You tell me.
Posted by Macktheknife680
Member since Jun 2025
181 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 5:50 pm to
Well you’re saying we haven’t gone to war so is the news just lying we didn’t really bomb anything over there? I mean it could be it’s not like the news doesn’t lie for a living

Unless we were over there we’d have no idea what was happening that’s how dishonest the media is at least all of television news
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 5:51 pm
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