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[Redacted] on Why Free College Will Not Fix Education | Rubin Report
Posted on 6/16/19 at 10:59 am
Posted on 6/16/19 at 10:59 am
Solutions:
#1 70-75% of a child’s learning is influenced by factors outside the classroom. Put more money into the hands of parents to free up time and remove stress on the household
#2 Increase teacher compensation for good teachers
#3 break up teacher’s unions and allow principals to fire under performing teachers. No more tenuring after 2 years.
#4 school choice
#5 only 33% of Americans will attend college. We need to invest in vocational technical training and apprenticeship programs.
#6 unemployment rate for recent college graduates is 44%. This does not change if you make it free. We need to stop the fantasy that college is for everyone.
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#1 70-75% of a child’s learning is influenced by factors outside the classroom. Put more money into the hands of parents to free up time and remove stress on the household
#2 Increase teacher compensation for good teachers
#3 break up teacher’s unions and allow principals to fire under performing teachers. No more tenuring after 2 years.
#4 school choice
#5 only 33% of Americans will attend college. We need to invest in vocational technical training and apprenticeship programs.
#6 unemployment rate for recent college graduates is 44%. This does not change if you make it free. We need to stop the fantasy that college is for everyone.
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:03 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Anyone who wants to go to college can go to college right now. This myth that college isn't available for the poor is bullshite. Student loans and pell grants make it available for anyone who wants to go.
The problem with education is that a massive percentage of our population doesn't value education and treat K-12 as day care. No amount of teacher compensation or facilities upgrades can't make up for dysfunctional home life.
The problem with education is that a massive percentage of our population doesn't value education and treat K-12 as day care. No amount of teacher compensation or facilities upgrades can't make up for dysfunctional home life.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:03 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Put more money into the hands of parents to free up time and remove stress on the household
You mean like making college free???
Christ almighty.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:03 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
As to #6 - They're unemployed because:
1. Colleges do a poor job of teaching practical skills these graduates need in the workplace
2. They major in some subject that shouldn't even be offered because it's completely worthless
1. Colleges do a poor job of teaching practical skills these graduates need in the workplace
2. They major in some subject that shouldn't even be offered because it's completely worthless
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:05 am to NIH
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No amount of teacher compensation or facilities upgrades can't make up for dysfunctional home life.
Watch the video and reference #1 in OP
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:06 am to LSUconvert
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You mean like making college free???
No
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:08 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
College doesn’t not inherently mean education. Our educational system produces an ill prepared workforce.
Sounds like you want another handout with point #1. Money won’t fix the problem. Fixing the family unit will fix our education system. Look at Asians in the US. What is their priority? How do they fare educationally? It’s not that difficult.
Sounds like you want another handout with point #1. Money won’t fix the problem. Fixing the family unit will fix our education system. Look at Asians in the US. What is their priority? How do they fare educationally? It’s not that difficult.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:09 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Lmao, you think putting money in the hands of "parents" will solve this problem? You folk never learn.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:12 am to NIH
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Lmao, you think putting money in the hands of "parents" will solve this problem? You folk never learn.
Studies have shown that less turmoil and discontent in the home has significant effects on the outcomes of children’s education and behavior. So yes it would help relieve some burden and potentially free up parental time to help young children learn material in the household.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:14 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Do these studies show how the parents will spend the money? Do you believe someone who makes mistake after mistake will suddenly wisely spend the money ?
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:20 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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No
That'd make way too much sense, I understand.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:22 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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This yielded data for transfer programs from six countries: Honduras, Indonesia, Morocco,
Mexico (2 different programs), Nicaragua, and the Philippines.5
Why didn't they do all of their studies in the U.S?
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:24 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
quote:
Studies have shown that less turmoil and discontent in the home has significant effects on the outcomes of children’s education and behavior. So yes it would help relieve some burden and potentially free up parental time to help young children learn material in the household.
Giving some hoodrat's mom $20k will do nothing more than exacerbate the problem
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:25 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:27 am to upgrayedd
The problem with Yang's "freedom" stipend is that it isn't realistic to think we'd get rid of the other programs. We would end up paying for UBI and SNAP, unemployment, WIC, social security disability, etc. It's the same thing with open borders libertarians. Our modern day politicians don't have the balls to get rid of existing programs.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:27 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Again, why did they not conduct this study exclusively in the U.S? We both know why.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:30 am to LSUconvert
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You mean like making college free???
You can’t just make it free. That’s not how it works. Are the professors, maintenance workers, administration staff, etc. all going to work for free?
Also what happens to all the current student loans?
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 11:33 am
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:32 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Free college would make things a thousand times worse. Nothing gets better by making it “free”
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:15 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Nice article on emerging countries. Now let’s see the study for the U.S.
I doubt they will draw a similar conclusion.
I doubt they will draw a similar conclusion.
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