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tadman
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Red states should ban electric car sales

Hear me out. Lot of blue state idiots are banning sale of gas cars in 2030-2035. The grid isn't ready, as we've seen Californians being asked not to charge their cars on hot days.

Given Bill Gates recent comments (LINK )

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Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said during an interview last week that scolding people about having nice things or eating meat will not solve the climate crisis.

"Anyone who says that we will tell people to stop eating meat, or stop wanting to have a nice house, and we'll just basically change human desires, I think that that's too difficult," Gates admitted. noting that rich countries only account for less than a third of all emissions."

"Those [remaining] two-thirds of emissions are pretty basic in terms of the calories and shelter and transport and goods being used. So, the excesses of the rich countries … even curbing those completely out of existence is not a solution to this problem,"


Emphasis in bold mine.

So given this recent shocking [not shocking] commentary, and given that its okay to ban certain types of cars, shouldn't the red states limit the amount of electric cars until:
(1) the electric grid is strengthened
(2) the deficient highway trusts funded by the gas tax is topped off
(3) we find a source of rare earths other than countries that hate us
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Powerman
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This idea is beyond stupid


efrad
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The electric car push is stupid but banning them is just stupid in the opposite direction


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MMauler
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Any state in a hurricane zone can claim it's a matter of security.


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FredBear
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I would prefer my state just ban left wingers


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ragincajun03
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How about instead of banning things, we just have an All Hands on Deck approach towards energy, both for sourcing electricity and providing fuel/energy for transportation?

I'm not against renewables at all, though I do wonder about those who virtue signal by buying vehicles whose power comes from force labor mining in China. However, I don't believe in punishing the fossil fuel industry in an attempt to force an energy transition WAY before our country, and especially the world, is logistically ready.


tadman
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How about instead of banning things, we just have an All Hands on Deck approach towards energy, both for sourcing electricity and providing fuel/energy for transportation?


This is my goal but in 40-ish years of my life we haven't pulled it off, so I don't have much hope.

In 8 years of Obama and Joe "the environmental guys" the could barely give Amtrak some money, but hey, they bankrupted coal without creating a replacement.


SantaFe
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How about Everyone let the free market work without interfering ?


ksayetiger
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How about Everyone let the free market work without interfering ?


Because the left hates this. They want power and control over everything.

Solution: get rid of the left.

How? Start by getting rid of mainstream media.


Powerman
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they bankrupted coal without creating a replacement.


What the hell are you even on about man?


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Lone Wolf McQuade
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People are having trouble making ends meet.

Only an elitist would force people to have to purchase a more expensive item.

They only want the rich to be able to drive.


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Wtodd
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ed states should ban electric car sales

No but there should be a push to educate people about these so-called electric vehicles


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tress4pres
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It’s pretty simple. Just like any other new technology, you provide the consumer incentives to make the purchase, but you don’t force their hand. The transition to EVs will be gradual, a matter of decades, but internal combustion engines will never be purged from existence.


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tadman
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they bankrupted coal without creating a replacement.


What the hell are you even on about man?


Not sure how this is a mystery. The Obama-Biden administration very clearly promised (and delivered) to bankrupt coal. Those were Obama's exact words.

Every year a few more coal plants are deactivated. Coal shipments are down. Mines are closing.

But you see, we didn't replace them. There are no magic beans. So where does the electricity come from??? You can't take a huge chunk of generating capacity offline and forget about it, pretend it doesn't need a replacement.


Powerman
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Not sure how this is a mystery. The Obama-Biden administration very clearly promised (and delivered) to bankrupt coal. Those were Obama's exact words.

Every year a few more coal plants are deactivated. Coal shipments are down. Mines are closing.

But you see, we didn't replace them. There are no magic beans. So where does the electricity come from??? You can't take a huge chunk of generating capacity offline and forget about it, pretend it doesn't need a replacement.


Cheap natural gas is what has displaced coal

You're trying to make some political conspiracy out of something that is simply smart economics


TDTOM
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I heard a guy on CNBC this morning say that 81% of the world's energy is from fossil fuels. 10 years ago it was 82%, and $3.1 trillion dollars has been spent on renewables during those 10 years.


KiwiHead
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So much for free people engaging in free markets.

So you wanna be Gavin but you want a moratorium on electric...

So you are Newsom's mentally challenged younger brother?


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Powerman
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I heard a guy on CNBC this morning say that 81% of the world's energy is from fossil fuels. 10 years ago it was 82%, and $3.1 trillion dollars has been spent on renewables during those 10 years.


This is one of those claims that you should immediately be skeptical of



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Azkiger
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Red states should ban electric car sales


Considering auto manufacturers are moving away from internal combustion engines, what new cars will be available?


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DotBling
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Red states should ban electric car sales


The market should dictate this, but unfortunately, the market will not be free in this case.


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