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RCP final polling averages 2016 vs current 2020

Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6908 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:33 pm
Couple of things that stand out. Trump had more favorable averages in every state in 2016 aside from Wisconsin which is very close to the same.

We have another day of polling to go which will probably tighten things like it did in 2016 the day before the election. But as things stand right now, the polls are going to have to be more wrong this year than they were 4 years ago.

2016 Florida - TRUMP +0.2
2020 - Biden +0.7

2016 Pennsylvania - Clinton +1.9
2020 - Biden +4.3

2016 Wisconsin - Clinton +6.5
2020 - Biden +6.6

2016 Michigan - Clinton +3.4
2020 - Biden +6.1

2016 North Carolina - TRUMP +1.0
2020 - Biden +0.3

2016 Arizona - TRUMP +4.0
2020 Biden - +1.1

2016 Ohio - TRUMP +3.1
2020 - Biden +0.2

2016 Nevada - TRUMP +0.8
2020 - Biden - +3.6

2016 Iowa - Trump +3.0
2020 - Trump +0.7

2016 Georgia - Trump +4.8
2020 - Biden +0.8


Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:34 pm to
Nope no difference in shy trump voters
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6908 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:37 pm to
With that said, my above comments are facts based off of the polls. Will they be right again? That remains to be seen.

I personally expect Trump to get Florida, Ohio, Georgia, Arizona, Iowa, and North Carolina. They're all well within the margin of error and Trump should exceed polling numbers by at least a point or so.

Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are a stretch right now to realistically say Trump gets one of them.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:37 pm to
So why didn't you list how much Trump won by or lost by in each of those states if you're trying to make a point. What you posted were not factual. What I'm asking for is.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

my above comments are facts based off of the polls


No they aren't facts, it's conjecture.
Posted by BigSalmon
Member since Jul 2019
576 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:39 pm to
Election is hours away and you goons are still pounding away about MUH fricking polls. Smh. Who gives a frick? The ULTIMATE POLL is about to be decided.
Posted by bamalee
Member since Jan 2009
1000 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:40 pm to
Dude, like in wisky the Washington post abc poll had Biden with 17 point lead guess what that poll in in the Real clear avg., Real Clear avg. means nothing anymore and everybody knows it... These polls are suppression polls pure and simple...
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6908 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Election is hours away and you goons are still pounding away about MUH fricking polls. Smh. Who gives a frick? The ULTIMATE POLL is about to be decided.


We saw a lot of late action go Trump's way 4 years ago and we're seeing a little bit of it right now but not to that same level, at least not yet.
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8062 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:41 pm to
If trump is getting NC, AZ, FL... then he’s also getting WI, MI, and PA.

Youre cherry picking to look impartial but it makes your logic inconsistent.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31796 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:41 pm to
Rcp average is messed up by several outliers and look at the Marquette final poll for 2016 and now. Not just the top two numbers but the “undecideds”.

Look at the des monies register.
Posted by artisticsavant
Member since Mar 2017
5007 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:42 pm to
When I see all the violence and rage against Trump supporters I'm sure a lot of people are the say nothing and vote type.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:42 pm to
I was getting worried at first . Then I realized you were talking about the fake polls.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48841 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:42 pm to
How many cuck threads are you gonna start?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68034 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:43 pm to
I have a feeling Real Clear Politics tinkers with which polls they included in their 2016 state projections after the election to make them look tighter. Rich Baris says he has screenshots the day of the election which shows differing averages more in Clinton's favor than you find now.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32203 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:43 pm to
Polls are useless. Comes down to cheating in Pennsylvania.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6908 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

If trump is getting NC, AZ, FL... then he’s also getting WI, MI, and PA.

Youre cherry picking to look impartial but it makes your logic inconsistent.


I'm giving him around +1-2% on top of what the polls are giving him. That puts him ahead in the states I listed but not in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, or Michigan.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34648 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:46 pm to
Id like to see Trafalgar 2016 vs 2020


Also Wisconsin is dead on with 2016 vs 2020. Trump wins Wisconsin for sure
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 4:47 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33981 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

I have a feeling Real Clear Politics tinkers with which polls they included in their 2016 state projections after the election to make them look tighter.

RCP can select which polls to include in the average to achieve the desired result. Sheeple who don't care, are led along blissfully ignorant.
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2282 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Election is hours away and you goons are still pounding away about MUH fricking polls. Smh. Who gives a frick? The ULTIMATE POLL is about to be decided.


Exactly and no one is examining the newly registered voters that skew the whole dynamic. Only time will tell, and the Republicans have had a ground game for quite some time unlike the Democrats...
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48841 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:49 pm to
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74% of attendees at President Trump’s rally in Michigan today have not voted yet in 2020! 32% didn’t vote in 2016 and 48% were not registered as Republicans. 


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