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Ray Epps gives first interview to NYT: ‘All of This Has Just Been Hell’
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:40 pm
He now lives somewhere in the Rocky Mountains (part of the Federal Witness Protection Program?). He also claims he's going to sue the media for defamation...discovery will be fun
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‘It’s Just Been Hell’: Life as the Victim of a Jan. 6 Conspiracy Theory
Ray Epps became the unwitting face of an attempt by pro-Trump forces to promote the baseless idea that the F.B.I. was behind the attack on the Capitol.
IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS — Up a winding country road, in a trailer park a half-mile from a cattle ranch, lives a man whose life has been ruined by a Jan. 6 conspiracy theory.
Ray Epps has suffered enormously in the past 10 months as right-wing media figures and Republican politicians have baselessly described him as a covert government agent who helped to instigate the attack on the Capitol last year.
Strangers have assailed him as a coward and a traitor and have menacingly cautioned him to sleep with one eye open. He was forced to sell his business and his home in Arizona. Fearing for his safety and uncertain of his future, he and his wife moved into a mobile home in the foothills of the Rockies, with all of their belongings crammed into shipping containers in a high-desert meadow, a mile or two away.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:41 pm to jatilen
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He can be seen in videos from around 1 p.m. that day accosting a rioter named Ryan Samsel, who had already started to confront officers behind a metal barricade on the west side of the Capitol. Mr. Epps said he intervened in the conflict to keep Mr. Samsel from attacking the police and tried to tell Mr. Samsel that the officers were merely doing their jobs. Mr. Samsel gave an identical account to the F.B.I. when he was arrested weeks later.
Mr. Epps also said he regretted sending a text to his nephew, well after the violence had erupted, in which he discussed how he helped to orchestrate the movements of people who were leaving Mr. Trump’s speech near the White House by pointing them in the direction of the Capitol.
Mr. Epps further acknowledged that while he moved past barricades into a restricted area of the Capitol grounds, he did not go into the building itself. The vast majority of those who did not enter the building or commit additional crimes have not been charged.
By the time the violence started spreading, Mr. Epps had already left the Capitol, having helped to get a sick protester to safety.
The problems began for Mr. Epps almost as soon as Revolver News published its first article about him in October. Suddenly, there were emailed death threats; trespassers on his property demanding “answers” about Jan. 6; and acquaintances, fellow members of his church, even family members who disowned him, he said.
Things became significantly worse after Mr. Carlson and prominent politicians began to amplify the lies.
In late December, Ms. Epps discovered shell casings on the ground near the bunkhouse of the farm-style wedding venue they owned in Arizona, suggesting that someone had been shooting at the building. Then, in January, Mr. Epps received a letter from someone claiming to have been brought into the country by a Mexican drug cartel.
The writer said he had overheard some cartel members talking about killing Mr. Epps.
“I right on paper to tell you need to be look out,” the letter said in broken English. “These drug gang people very bad people.”
Whether it was real or just a demented joke, Ms. Epps went into hiding, leaving Mr. Epps to arm himself and run the family business for a while through his security team. Ultimately, the couple sold the business and their ranch-style house, losing hundreds of thousands of dollars and wrecking the arrangements they had made for their retirement.
“It has a been a nightmare,” Ms. Epps said.
After leaving Arizona for the mountains months ago, the Eppses have not done much. They manage to spend time with their children — and some of their 37 grandchildren — but mostly keep to themselves. Mr. Epps has taken to wearing a wide-brimmed hat that hides his face. If people at the gas station or grocery store say he looks familiar, he will usually smile and then be on his way.
While he wants to clear his name, he is under no illusion that he will ever manage to divorce it fully from the lies.
“They’ll always be associated,” Mr. Epps said. “You can’t convince some people. There are extremists out there that you’ll never convince them that they’re wrong.”
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:42 pm to jatilen
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he did not go into the building itself.
No, you just incited a riot as directed by the Feds
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:44 pm to jatilen
What a pathetic lying little twerp.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:45 pm to jatilen
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The clip has been used to depict Mr. Epps as a man who not only urged people to riot at the Capitol but also then evaded prosecution. The Justice Department has not publicly addressed its decision not to charge him, but the legal definition of incitement requires a person’s words to cause an immediate threat of danger, not one that could possibly occur the following day.
This should be the end of the article right here
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:51 pm to jatilen
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...selectively edited videos and unfounded leaps of logic...
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:55 pm to jatilen
I didn’t do anything but I’m hiding.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:59 pm to jatilen
The writer of this tripe polished ol Ray's knob pretty well.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 2:59 pm to jatilen
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But he said that he had managed to avoid arrest because he reached out to the F.B.I. within minutes of discovering that agents wanted to speak with him.
This is Soviet-level propaganda. The FBI didn't charge me because I talked to them sooner. Lol.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:00 pm to jatilen
I pray that an honest Grand Jury puts him under Oath and gets the WHOLE truth. Meanwhile I hope Epps lives like a ‘sword of Damocles’is over his head. It is. Lying, treasonous conspirator. Far from alone though, as those who control Government are all guilty. Not that don’t think they are true to their Fascist ‘Social Justice’ cause. They truly are; Obama at the fore.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:03 pm to SCLibertarian
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This is Soviet-level propaganda. The FBI didn't charge me because I talked to them sooner. Lol.
I don't know how any rational person could read that article, knowing the full extent of this guy's involvement and the persecution of other people who did far less than him, and not think the media is 100% aligned with the federal government.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:06 pm to upgrayedd
It really demonstrates how they are arms of the intelligence agencies. That is f-ing scary.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:38 pm to Bunk Moreland
So they did ask him why he wasn't in jail like all the other J6 insurrectionists. Seems his answer passed the NYT smell test.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:39 pm to Bunk Moreland
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It really demonstrates how they are arms of the intelligence agencies. That is f-ing scary.
Not only are they giving this dude a pass, they're openly flaunting it by painting this dude as a victim
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:41 pm to jatilen
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Ray Epps gives first interview to NYT: ‘All of This Has Just Been Hell’
Tell that to those still sitting in jail cells. No sympathy for him.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:42 pm to jatilen
Still waiting on why they haven't arrested this guy when they've arrested anyone within 10 miles of the Capitol with a Trump shirt on that day.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:43 pm to jatilen
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
and
yet
he's
not
been
arrested
indicted
or
even
had
his
hair
mussed
by
DOJ
or
FBI
and
yet
he's
not
been
arrested
indicted
or
even
had
his
hair
mussed
by
DOJ
or
FBI
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 4:04 pm
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