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re: Rare footage of Zimbabwe during Christmas time 1976: wow!
Posted on 8/24/18 at 5:23 am to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 8/24/18 at 5:23 am to Big Scrub TX
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Mugabe and the White Farmer
Watched this last night on YouTube.
Scary shite.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:18 am to SDVTiger
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Aggiedub is not a very bright poster
He is the worst poster on every board he posts on.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:29 am to AggieDub14
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They took what they wanted and bailed, and didn't give a shite about the people they fricked over.
In the case of Zimbabwe, do yourself a favor and read about the Rhodesian Bush War.
You'll find that it had sweet frick-all to do with colonial abandonment and everything to do with the establishment of communist proxies in Africa.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:49 am to AggieDub14
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The British treated their colonies like garbage. The French actually tried to assimilate them into French society. Bad example.
You could have stopped here, at this point it was obvious you were clueless.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 8:29 am to AggieDub14
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When colonizers left, they didn't do it in a way that set up their former colonies for success. They drew country boarders in ways that made no sense that led to serious ethnic tensions within individual countries. They took what they wanted and bailed, and didn't give a shite about the people they fricked over
Incorrect
Posted on 8/24/18 at 8:34 am to reverendotis
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You'll find that it had sweet frick-all to do with colonial abandonment and everything to do with the establishment of communist proxies in Africa.
This.
And, shocker of shockers, commies aren't very good at feeding people, building wealth or improving a nation. It's normally an extraction process until the folks can't/won't stand it any longer - then anarchy and chaos rule for some months (years) until a strongman takes over at the top of a dictatorship.
This is why the U.S. system of individual freedom (however imperfect) is superior to all of that. Demonstrated performance and relative insurance against such outcomes.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 9:53 am to reverendotis
In 1965 when Ian Smith ( Rhodesian PM) declared independence from England, he and his cabinet had actually started desegregating the country and had instituted land reform that was market based. Black Africans could buy and sell land and they had access to public education just like the whites did
Mugabe just hated white people and he wanted them to pay but after the war he initially worked with the white farmers and got very rich doing so. Then his base of veterans from the Bush War started getting uneasy and wanted stuff. Then he went thug and started his 5th brigade stuff of intimidating and killing white farmers.
The white farmers left and basically said if you can farm and manage this....it's yours. Most of the farms went to Mugabe insiders who use these farms as their own personal estaes. They know nothing about farming and therefore they get crop failures and famine. They don't know how to run things so they get hyper inflation.
It's not Marxism, per se, it's Kleptocracy....and a very inept one at that
Mugabe just hated white people and he wanted them to pay but after the war he initially worked with the white farmers and got very rich doing so. Then his base of veterans from the Bush War started getting uneasy and wanted stuff. Then he went thug and started his 5th brigade stuff of intimidating and killing white farmers.
The white farmers left and basically said if you can farm and manage this....it's yours. Most of the farms went to Mugabe insiders who use these farms as their own personal estaes. They know nothing about farming and therefore they get crop failures and famine. They don't know how to run things so they get hyper inflation.
It's not Marxism, per se, it's Kleptocracy....and a very inept one at that
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:09 am to AggieDub14
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Would you say these nations are better off for having been colonized?
The primitives in England learned a lot from their colonizers (the Romans) and prospered because of it.
Maybe the Africans are just too stupid to learn anything.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:15 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Swinging band, I must say.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:43 am to VOR
Aggiedub done been brainwashed by teachers who make statements like this.
I pray one day as he ages he will search out the truth.
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"Okay guys, one more thing, this summer when you're being inundated with all this American Fourth Of July brouhaha, don't forget what you're celebrating, and that's the fact that a bunch of slave-owning, aristocratic, white males didn't want to pay their taxes."
I pray one day as he ages he will search out the truth.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 11:12 am to FeauxPaw
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Empire of Dust
Whew lawd Feaux.
That is pretty fun documentary. Chinese are at least truthful about what goes on in this world unlike the indoctrinated West. You can watch Empire of Dust on youtube.
History of Rhodesia - Zimbabwe
empire of dust trailer
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more...
Posted on 8/24/18 at 11:48 am to AggieDub14
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When colonizers left, they didn't do it in a way that set up their former colonies for success.
They had the same choice as the Algerian French: a suitcase or a coffin.
Posted on 10/17/18 at 8:51 am to Big Scrub TX
Book was excellent BTW. I think it would parallel certain situations here in the states like Selma, Al or Jackson, Ms or Detroit, Mi.
Posted on 10/17/18 at 9:02 am to AggieDub14
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Yeah weird. It's almost like natives were still unhappy about colonialism or something.
How are they now in a starving, tribal third world shithole? Happy or unhappy? Ambivalent, maybe?
Posted on 10/17/18 at 10:55 pm to AggieDub14
quote:look at the video. look at today. you tell me. the difference is obvious. well, to any reasonable person
So you are arguing that the governments of another land meddling in other peoples society helped them?
quote:depends. what is the attitude of the people?
Doesn't that go against the political ideals of this board as a whole?
quote:link? you're overgeneralizing
They didn't ask for help. And didn't want it
quote:and whose fault is that?
They were duped
here's a question for you. were the africans enslaving each other before the colonists got there?
Posted on 10/17/18 at 11:06 pm to AggieDub14
Remind us when Africa was great?
*Hint* When it was a multicultural melting pot of people there to help better each other.
This post was edited on 10/17/18 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 10/17/18 at 11:10 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:my word this is what i've been telling people who make the absurd claim that the colonists "stole" the land from the natives. the natives hadn't been on the continent forever and they were constantly fighting, redrawing boundaries, forging coalitions, changing allegiances.
colonizing was going to happen
did you know that some natives joined us forces against other natives?!?! PLOT TWIST
you don't like colonization? i get it. but good luck proving that might makes right is unacceptable. in order to do so, you would have to go back in time and debate colonizers. you would be thrown in the stockade until you either died or came to the realization that it was the way of the world at that time and you have no moral authority to tell them they were acting improperly.
Posted on 10/17/18 at 11:15 pm to russellvillehog
quote:whoa whoa whoa. let's not go overboard there. 90proof and ib are still around. let's not bury them before they're dead
He is the worst poster on every board he posts on
Posted on 10/17/18 at 11:41 pm to AggieDub14
I wonder if you've heard of a nation called Liberia? Founded by slaves from the US, they simply took the land from the natives, refused to allow them to participate in the governing of the new nation.
Sound familiar? Except no whites involved. Until WW2, when America basically created an infrastructure and economy for them.
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"The Americo-Liberian settlers did not relate well to the indigenous peoples they encountered, especially those in communities of the more isolated "bush". The colonial settlements were raided by the Kru and Grebo from their inland chiefdoms. Americo-Liberians developed as a small elite that held on to political power, and the indigenous tribesmen were excluded from birthright citizenship in their own lands until 1904, in a repetition of the United States' treatment of Native Americans.[10]"
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Because of ethnocentrism and the cultural gap, the Americo-Liberians envisioned creating a western-style state to which the tribesmen should assimilate. They promoted religious organizations to set up missions and schools to educate the indigenous peoples.
Sound familiar? Except no whites involved. Until WW2, when America basically created an infrastructure and economy for them.
This post was edited on 10/17/18 at 11:43 pm
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