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Sentrius
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Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims


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There's a reason why I've called JBE the political twin of Edwin Edwards.

Here's the advocate article.....

Only one-third of Louisiana applicants have seen Restore LA grant money; see breakdown of grants

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Three years after floods swept across portions of southern Louisiana, only 36 percent of homeowners who applied for help through the Restore Louisiana program have been approved for grants and about one-third have received checks for repairs, according to a recent report from the relief program.

There was more than $1.2 billion in federal funds allocated for rebuilding efforts following floods in March and August 2016, but only $575 million was offered to homeowners across the state. Of that total, $412 million was disbursed as of July 26. Any remaining funds are expected to be reallocated to other Restore Louisiana programs, including rentals, temporary housing, flood insurance assistance, business and farmer assistance.

More than 65,800 residences across East Baton Rouge, Ascension and Livingston parishes were impacted by flooding in August 2016, according to federal data.

Restore Louisiana, a statewide program meant to aid homeowners looking to rebuild after the flood through the use of federal dollars, collected more than 56,200 initial surveys from residents about damages and ultimately 43,205 homeowners applied for grant assistance.

Of those who applied for grants, only 15,634 homeowners were offered grants through Restore Louisiana and 12,980 homeowners have been sent checks as of July 26.

Restore Louisiana found that 11,000 homeowners were given zero awards because they had received duplicative benefits from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the U.S. Small Business Administration or private flood insurance that was greater than the cost of the damages. That number is expected to drop after new SBA guidance in July that opens the door for homeowners to receive some grant money even if they were awarded or drew down on SBA funds to make home repairs.


theunknownknight
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
When it rains, it pours


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Glock17
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
I might be mistaken on this, but most of those dollars are fed dollars so they had to follow their guidelines. The whole duplication of benefits screwed a lot of people up.


BigJim
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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I might be mistaken on this, but most of those dollars are fed dollars so they had to follow their guidelines. The whole duplication of benefits screwed a lot of people up.


Yes but then Garrett Graves and the rest of the delegation got that fixed.

HOWEVER, I am not yet willing to put this on the JBE administration. I would love to hear from some people on here about their stories. Did you apply and get turned down? If so did you really expect some assistance or just a "might was well apply" type of thing?



Suntiger
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
Didn’t the feds just clear this up a month ago after it took them forever to fix it? This might not be a good sore to pick at for the Congressman.


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Glock17
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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Yes but then Garrett Graves and the rest of the delegation got that fixed.


It still isn't totally fixed. From what Graves has said HUD is still screwing around on the guidelines.


BigJim
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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It still isn't totally fixed. From what Graves has said HUD is still screwing around on the guidelines.


That was true, but I believe it got fixed in June according to the Advocate LINK

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The issue is officially being handed off from the Trump administration, where it has been bogged down in bureaucratic channels for eight months, to Gov. John Bel Edwards' administration, which must closely follow federal guidelines that require public notice periods and other processes that could take about three months, said Pat Forbes, the executive director of the state Office of Community Development that oversees the Restore Louisiana program.


I suspect there is either some reason those 2/3rds didn't get money or this will but it will take longer.

Again, would love to hear from those affected.


Motorboat
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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I suspect there is either some reason those 2/3rds didn't get money or this will but it will take longer.

Again, would love to hear from those affected.


so you don't take Sentrius's biased review here as fact? Thank God some are starting to see through the constant BS.


Decatur
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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That was true, but I believe it got fixed in June according to the Advocate


I’m wondering wtf is going on at Ben Carson’s HUD. The DOB issue took them forever to figure out. Plus, the state is still waiting for HUD rules on an allocation that passed Congress *a year-and-a-half ago*. Unacceptable.

Y’all want to blame someone, blame Ben Carson. Or Trump for putting him there.


Dead End
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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43,205 homeowners applied for grant assistance.

Of those who applied for grants, only 15,634 homeowners were offered grants through Restore Louisiana and 12,980 homeowners have been sent checks as of July 26.



Still waiting...


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Sentrius
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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Thank God some are starting to see through the constant BS.




Dude, I merely passed along Abraham's take on the issue with a mere snippet on what I really see JBE as independent of what this thread is about which I have repeatedly stated.

That's all this thread is.


Sentrius
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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Plus, the state is still waiting for HUD rules on an allocation that passed Congress *a year-and-a-half ago*. Unacceptable.

Y’all want to blame someone, blame Ben Carson. Or Trump for putting him there.


Or we could also blame JBE for not raising hell about this in his capacity as Governor? Why is he not raising hell with the feds about this?

Of course that would mean he would have to call out Ben Carson and Trump and he's too much of a political savant to risk doing that in a state like Louisiana.


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BigJim
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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I’m wondering wtf is going on at Ben Carson’s HUD. The DOB issue took them forever to figure out. Plus, the state is still waiting for HUD rules on an allocation that passed Congress *a year-and-a-half ago*. Unacceptable.

Y’all want to blame someone, blame Ben Carson. Or Trump for putting him there.


As I understand it: Duplication of benefits has been an issue going back for forever. Congress then took action with Graves leading the charge. However OMB thought something didn't work with the changes congress made. I don't know what that something was; if someone does, please post here. So Congress went back and made more changes. (side note, this is pretty impressive on our delegations behalf. Graves was the key player but Kennedy pushed it with the administration and even Richmond strongly backed it. And of course Scalise! Good job LA delegation!) THEN OMB had to approve THEN HUD had to approve which they did in June. I don't think HUD was the big hold up here.



LSUFanHouston
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
JBE is incompetent and he may be corrupt, but is this issue really on him?

When was the money available?
Who is running this program?
How many people are ineligible?
How many people have provided all needed info and are waiting on a check?
Once someone is approved for a claim, how fast are they getting their money?

And all of this is after we consider the "why don't you have flood insurance" issue?

It's real rich for a conservative to be blaming a democrat for not spending welfare money quick enough.


Motorboat
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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That's all this thread is.


except for this:

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There's a reason why I've called JBE the political twin of Edwin Edwards.


BigJim
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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JBE is incompetent and he may be corrupt, but is this issue really on him?

When was the money available?
Who is running this program?
How many people are ineligible?
How many people have provided all needed info and are waiting on a check?
Once someone is approved for a claim, how fast are they getting their money?

And all of this is after we consider the "why don't you have flood insurance" issue?


Agree with all this

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It's real rich for a conservative to be blaming a democrat for not spending welfare money quick enough.


Not quite willing to call disaster relief "welfare." Or if it is, it is a very, very different stripe of welfare.

And regardless it should be administered in the most appropriate, efficient method possible.


Sentrius
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
I already mentioned that.

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a mere snippet on what I really see JBE as independent of what this thread is about which I have repeatedly stated.


In other threads mind you.


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LSUFanHouston
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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As I understand it: Duplication of benefits has been an issue going back for forever.


Duplication of benefits is supposed to prevent you from getting paid more than $1 for $1 of damage.

Duplication of benefits was never supposed to prevent someone from swapping a loan (in this case, SBA loan) for a grant.

If you have an SBA loan for 50K, and you still owe 46K, then this program needs to pay off the 46K loan and send you a check for 4K. I don't know what to do about the interest you paid... I feel like that's on the individual for getting the repair money quicker. I could see where paying back the interest could cause someone to believe you were now getting more than $1 per $1 of damage.

Road Home had these same issues and Congress had to step in. You would think they would have dealt with it once and for all, but I guess not.


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Dizz
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
Had he given all of the money out someone yall would be screaming that the program was too lax and he is just a liberal giving out money to buy votes.



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Decatur
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re: Ralph Abraham says JBE has failed 2016 Flood victims
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However OMB thought something didn't work with the changes congress made. I don't know what that something was; if someone does, please post here.


I don’t have much insight on this part.

But there’s no f’n excuse for HUD to have not issued rules for the allocation that passed Congress in early 2018. It shouldn’t take more than a few months for that. Something has seriously broken there.

And it’s not just Louisiana that’s waiting for Ben Carson’s HUD to get it’s act together.


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