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re: Question for the "legalize all drugs" crowd.

Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:31 pm to
You believe in universal health coverage?
Posted by Taurus
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:32 pm to
Legalize it, but under gov't regulations just like alcohol and tobacco.

Cultivation, distributing, and consuming should be regulated.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:33 pm to
Where do new heroine users come from?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:34 pm to
Why?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:34 pm to
Florida.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:34 pm to
You need not lie, bamasjw alter.
Posted by sparkinator
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

Cultivation, distributing, and consuming should be regulated.


It’s a start, but better than we have now.

I’d have consumption only regulated, and that by testing only. Although I could see markets for controlled substances sold at government stores kinda like Canada sells tobacco.
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

there is evidence that decriminalization will decrease usage rates
Where is this evidence?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:38 pm to
How else do you explain this?

Posted by BigAppleBucky
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:39 pm to
Let's start with legalization of marijuana as a first step. Regulate and tax it as we do alcohol.

Frankly, even if it was legal, I wouldn't smoke marijuana unless I had medical condition that marijuana had been proven to help. Even though the smoke from marijuana is supposed to be less damaging than smoke from tobacco, I prefer not to gunk-up my lungs with either.

I suppose THC in general would be legalized at the same time.

Let's see what happens after ten years of THC-marijuana legalization. If, as proponents say, overall drug abuse goes down then there might be other legalizations or de-criminalizations, down the pike. If, as opponents say, drug abuse and other drug related problems increase, the step needs to be rethought.

My prediction would be that there will be little change in either direction and both sides will have "studies" that prove they are correct.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:41 pm to
I only support blanket legalization if it’s accompanied by abolition of welfare state
Posted by DyeHardDylan
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:42 pm to
I don’t care what people do to themselves of their own freewill. For over 100 years heroin was legal before the government decided it needed to tell people what to do and save them from themselves.
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

How long ago was that? 

What's the leading cause of traffic fatalities in 2018?
Read the article, I can't remember.

But traffic fatalities increased in Colorado after legalization.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:50 pm to
Which article?
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

I'm not ready to see high school kids shooting up heroin. Are you?



That's quite the leap. There would still be age restrictions, like with anything else
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:53 pm to
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Authorities say the numbers cannot be definitively linked to legalized pot




That one?
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:55 pm to
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But traffic fatalities increased in Colorado after legalization.


And so has the population. Legislating behavior never works. If a certain behavior only harms the person partaking in the behavior there should be no laws against possessing or using a substance in the privacy of one's home.

Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:57 pm to
LINK

Correlation does not imply causation. Traffic fatalities are up across the US.

LINK

IMO distracted driving is the driving force here, but there are a number of factors. For marijuana, however, there is no empirical evidence that it has had any effect of driving accidents


ETA: Drunk driving, however, accounts for roughly 1 out of every 4 vehicular fatalities in the United States. Alcohol is very much legal.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Legislating behavior never works


Well, that’s just not true.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:58 pm to
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Where is this evidence?


I posted it in this thread
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