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Question for my Democrat PT'ers. Do you support Pelosi's strategy on stalling USMCA?

Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45984 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:51 pm
Nancy is in a tough position with USMCA. It's been estimated by Peter Navarro and his economic team that USMCA will likely boost GDP .5-1% which is great for working Americans but is disastrous for power hungry and butt hurt Deep State Dims. The people who will be hurt the most is smack dab in the blue collar voting block.....the same voting block that the semi abandoned the Dims in 2016.

I ask if you support Pelosi holding up the ratification of USMCA because there's no good reason to hold up the legislation. Nancy has stated that there are many other issues more important than passing USMCA and all those reasons/issues center on removing Trump from office......think about that regular Joe democrats, your elected leaders are saying you're cannon fodder if it helps to further the Resistance. Y'all know how the Prog/Dim elites think about the Trump economy, Bill Maher said he would like to see the economy tank if it would end Trump's reign of terror. I'm simply asking my fellow Democrat PT'ers if this is a reasonable strategy by Pelosi and is Nancy putting the American worker first with this decision?
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14811 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:53 pm to
They need to win by any means necessary.

They feel the ends justify the means.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:54 pm to
Anyone that supports Pelosi only wants to truly see the downfall of this country.

Any answer you get other than this one will be dishonest.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45984 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Anyone that supports Pelosi only wants to truly see the downfall of this country. Any answer you get other than this one will be dishonest.


It's sad but you're much more right than wrong.

Dim Mission Statement: Whatever It Takes..By Any Means Necessary!
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Rammin TX
DFW Texas
Member since Oct 2018
1736 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Bill Maher said he would like to see the economy tank if it would end Trump's reign of terror.


And you already know the answer.....

They will do anything to regain power.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45984 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 3:38 pm to
I have to believe the absence of any Democrats answering the OP question is the same as admitting Pelosi’s strategy to withhold USMCA from ratification is potentially a huge political mistake.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 3:49 pm to
I'm not understanding why its being held up. I think its a bad decision.

Let me take this further: I'm a big equities guy in the market and I do some heavy options trading. I generally place bets on the economy booming. So whenever ANY politician starts to meddle with the markets, be it Pelosi with USMCA, Obama with ACA, or Trump with Tariffs on China and other countries, I get pissed.

Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 3:59 pm to
I have to believe the absence of any Democrats answering the OP question is the same as admitting Pelosi’s strategy to withhold USMCA from ratification is potentially a huge political mistake.

I find it curious how we all interpret things differently.

I have to believe the absence of any Democrats answering the OP question is the same as admitting they are in agreement with her position.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139779 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 3:59 pm to

quote:

I get pissed


Slam your pussy hat down with all the power of an 8 year girl? Sounds scary.
Posted by GeauxCali
Member since Nov 2019
479 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

I ask if you support Pelosi holding up the ratification of USMCA because there's no good reason to hold up the legislation. Nancy has stated that there are many other issues more important than passing USMCA and all those reasons/issues center on removing Trump from office
if trump fans couldnt lie theyd be mute.

The deal hasnt been brought for a vote yet because its still being negotiated. Among other things, Democrats want the ability to inspect factories in Mexico to ensure standards.

Theyre also fighting the amount of time trump gave the pharmaceutical lobby for generics.

"...it quickly embraced the 10 years contained in the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement as a major improvement, especially in the Mexican market."

"...Democrats, backing arguments made by manufacturers of cheaper generic medications, want USMCA to provide earlier access to proprietary test data used to develop biologics, in order to increase competition and lower prices for patients."
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:43 pm to
So you're more interested in your wallet than what's best for your country.


Typical fricking liberal.
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:44 pm to
And the bot has arrived with Dem approved talking points that would never be accepted by Mexico

Bravo
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:51 pm to
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GeauxCali


OK Limpwrister
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53805 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:54 pm to
Sure they support it. No democrat that supports the party on display today gives a frick about Americans, all they want to do is win at any cost. These people are mentally ill. Look at what this party stands for and no normal human being would support this fricking freak show.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45984 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 6:07 pm to
quote:


I have to believe the absence of any Democrats answering the OP question is the same as admitting Pelosi’s strategy to withhold USMCA from ratification is potentially a huge political mistake.

I find it curious how we all interpret things differently.

I have to believe the absence of any Democrats answering the OP question is the same as admitting they are in agreement with her position.


Then step up and own it. Why not show support for Nancy by explaining how holding up USMCA helps her constituents.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45984 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

if trump fans couldnt lie theyd be mute. The deal hasnt been brought for a vote yet because its still being negotiated. Among other things, Democrats want the ability to inspect factories in Mexico to ensure standards. Theyre also fighting the amount of time trump gave the pharmaceutical lobby for generics. "...it quickly embraced the 10 years contained in the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement as a major improvement, especially in the Mexican market." "...Democrats, backing arguments made by manufacturers of cheaper generic medications, want USMCA to provide earlier access to proprietary test data used to develop biologics, in order to increase competition and lower prices for patients."



More Dim drivel...Nancy herself said there are more pressing matters than passing USMCA......we have an invader in the Swamp! Lol!
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

estimated by Peter Navarro and his economic team that USMCA will likely boost GDP .5-1%

annually? lmao

actually, it's not likely to have a cumulative impact anywhere near what that would be for a couple decades. that's because it's pretty much just nafta with a few items cribbed from TPP, plus a slightly-more-protectionist piece on automotive parts

a slight negative on net, according to Trump's own ITC
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45984 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

annually? lmao

actually, it's not likely to have a cumulative impact anywhere near what that would be for a couple decades. that's because it's pretty much just nafta with a few items cribbed from TPP, plus a slightly-more-protectionist piece on automotive parts

a slight negative on net, according to Trump's own ITC




We’ll have to trust your expertise, no doubt you’re opinion and vast knowledge is more reliable than Peter Navarro’s and Kudlow’s....frick me! Lol!!!
Posted by TiketheMiger
Member since Oct 2011
1511 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

I ask if you support Pelosi holding up the ratification of USMCA because there's no good reason to hold up the legislation.


Kind of like Moscow Mitch holding up 400 bills from being voted on in the Senate.

Btw I am against both of them doing this. As an independent I want politicians that can work together and come up with solutions regardless of what party they belong to.

We are paying these Congress members salaries to literally do nothing. No one should be happy with either side.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:28 pm to
Then step up and own it. Why not show support for Nancy by explaining how holding up USMCA helps her constituents.

I was backing you up from a different angle, BT.
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