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VoxDawg
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
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Just don't tax basic necessities for survival (water, food, clothing, maybe electricity, etc.).


The problem with exempting ANYTHING at the retail level is that you open the door for lobbyists to put on the full court press to exempt their products.

Things like utilities wouldn't be taxed, because they're not goods & services paid for at the retail level.


Von
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Amazing Polly


All of her videos are worth watching.
I went back to her Smart City video the other day.
If you put all these Lefty intiatives together it makes for a pretty bleak picture.
Smart Cities, digital banking (QR codes), social credit scoring, no meat/mystery vat grown meat, depopulation, zero fossil fuels...
It reminds me of the Mega Cities in Judge Dredd and some of the sci-fi I've read. Human warehouses. Easier to control the population.

Last week when I was talking to my father-in-law he asked if I'd heard about anyone doing research on fusion energy. He's thinking of investing in a company called TAE (if I remember right). They're making progress but held up by scaling it. I'm not sure if the problem is scaling it up or scaling it down for personal use. (Fusion powered cars?)
BUT it dawned on me that with all the Left's talk of ditching fossil fuels they never mention alternatives like fission or fusion, just solar and wind. Almost as if... the ONLY way to meet or needs with just solar and wind is to pack about a half a billion people into these Smart Cities and kill off the remaining 7 billion or so, ditch livestock and most agriculture and feed everyone this Impossible Meat crap.
Ala Georgia Guidestone...


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VoxDawg
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
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the biggest reason is it would shrink government. IRS would essentially become obsolete overnight. That would be my guess as first reason the left would not vote for it.

They need the IRS not only for government jobs and creating more government dependency, they need the IRS as a weapon of the deep state (see tea party attacks under obama). This is another big reason they would never vote for it.


Absolutely. FairTax advocate (and author of The FairTax Book, along with HR 25's original sponsor in Congress, John Linder of GA) Neal Boortz called implementation of the FairTax the "greatest transfer of power since the American Revolution."

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This is another big reason they would never vote for it.


Just like term limits in a thread on the PTB, when it comes to abolition of the IRS and repeal of the 16th Amendment legalizing the income tax:

WE
DO
NOT
NEED
THEIR
PERMISSION

This is precisely why Article V of the Constitution exists. Separate Convention of States could and should be called with the express purpose of instituting Congressional term limits and abolishing the IRS/16A.


notsince98
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
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Things like utilities wouldn't be taxed, because they're not goods & services paid for at the retail level.


These things are definitely paid for at the retail level.

Take electricity for example. There are 3 levels where electricity is sold/purchased. 1) Generation 2) Transmission & distribution 3) Retail (customer delivery).

The lobbyists exist as long as there is a government. You want to get rid of them you have to end government.


notsince98
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
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Just like term limits in a thread on the PTB, when it comes to abolition of the IRS and repeal of the 16th Amendment legalizing the income tax:

WE
DO
NOT
NEED
THEIR
PERMISSION

This is precisely why Article V of the Constitution exists. Separate Convention of States could and should be called with the express purpose of instituting Congressional term limits and abolishing the IRS/16A.


I agree but the left still exists at the state level. There are many reasons a convention of states should have already been called several times. It doesn't happen. The two party system guarantees this.


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VoxDawg
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
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These things are definitely paid for at the retail level.



I understand your point. I'm just going on FairTax.org's definition of those things that are bought & paid at a register POS, or online interface a la Amazon.


VoxDawg
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
If you think about additional revenue received by the Treasury from those who are currently outside of the income tax structure (be it those who are in the cash economy, foreign visitors, illegal aliens, etc), it's a great way to dial back animosity from we the people who are citizens as we look for ways to deal with those here illegally.

At least they're paying into the system...


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SquatchDawg
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Convention of States


That’s a helluva Pandora’s Box though. If the Deep State or Globalists took advantage of that and managed to get their changes input we’d be truly fricked.

I’m 100% behind the Fair Tax BTW.
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Thought a couple of people might find this 8-minute video somewhat encouraging. Nothing too deep, but this is a guy from Finland who says that a good many people in his country are knowledgeable of the Q phenomenon, the Great Awakening, etc.

Imo, it's encouraging to see that a component of the rest of the world are in this fight with us. Hell, when the protesters in Hong Kong are appropriating Pepe as one of their primary symbols, you KNOW those cats are WOKE as hell!

YT

PS - English subtitles are available, but his English is pretty good. The captions are kind of weird, anyway.
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browl
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
We are taxed when it comes in and taxed when it is spent. It is a crock of shite not only because it happens but also because it has become so normal that people just accept it. The words indentured servitude come to mind.


zatetic
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
The Hidden Tyranny

Also known as "The Hidden Tyranny - 'Our God is Lucifer'" The confession of an insider to the globalist elite. This classic interview is one of the "must have" pieces for the library of the NWO investigator. Gives insights into the thinking of the Committee of 300, and the Black Nobility generally.


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ThinePreparedAni
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
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Mind Blowing Epstein Related Facts You Haven't Heard This one is worth watching, although it is about 40+ minutes long. But the point I want to make with this is that the Zorro Ranch is about an hour from the Santa Fe institute (which is discussed in this video some), and also one of the Maxwell Spawn's "Church of Ayahuasca" (not far from Santa Fe Institute, and hope I spelled "Ayahuasca" right).


Good stuff
The technocracy is real

Below is some backstory
I will post on the current mind control angle (total control through tech) tomorrow

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/09/758989641/the-cias-secret-quest-for-mind-control-torture-lsd-and-a-poisoner-in-chief

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The CIA's Secret Quest For Mind Control: Torture, LSD And A 'Poisoner In Chief'

LISTEN· 37:36 Toggle more options
September 9, 20192:50 PM ET


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During the early period of the Cold War, the CIA became convinced that communists had discovered a drug or technique that would allow them to control human minds. In response, the CIA began its own secret program, called MK-ULTRA, to search for a mind control drug that could be weaponized against enemies.

MK-ULTRA, which operated from the 1950s until the early '60s, was created and run by a chemist named Sidney Gottlieb. Journalist Stephen Kinzer, who spent several years investigating the program, calls the operation the "most sustained search in history for techniques of mind control."


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Ultimately, Gottlieb concluded that mind control was not possible. After MK-ULTRA shut down, he went on to lead a CIA program that created poisons and high-tech gadgets for spies to use.


Hmmm, I wonder why he was interested in gadgets...

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In the early 1950s, he arranged for the CIA to pay $240,000 to buy the world's entire supply of LSD. He brought this to the United States, and he began spreading it around to hospitals, clinics, prisons and other institutions, asking them, through bogus foundations, to carry out research projects and find out what LSD was, how people reacted to it and how it might be able to be used as a tool for mind control. Now, the people who volunteered for these experiments and began taking LSD, in many cases, found it very pleasurable. They told their friends about it. Who were those people? Ken Kesey, the author of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, got his LSD in an experiment sponsored by the CIA by MK-ULTRA, by Sidney Gottlieb. So did Robert Hunter, the lyricist for the Grateful Dead, which went on to become a great purveyor of LSD culture. Allen Ginsberg, the poet who preached the value of the great personal adventure of using LSD, got his first LSD from Sidney Gottlieb. Although, of course, he never knew that name.


Music and film...

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On the CIA hiring Nazi doctors and Japanese torturers to learn methods The CIA mind control project, MK-ULTRA, was essentially a continuation of work that began in Japanese and Nazi concentration camps. Stephen Kinzer, author of 'Poisoner in Chief' The CIA mind control project, MK-ULTRA, was essentially a continuation of work that began in Japanese and Nazi concentration camps. Not only was it roughly based on those experiments, but the CIA actually hired the vivisectionists and the torturers who had worked in Japan and in Nazi concentration camps to come and explain what they had found out so that we could build on their research.

For example, Nazi doctors had conducted extensive experiments with mescaline at the Dachau concentration camp, and the CIA was very interested in figuring out whether mescaline could be the key to mind control that was one of their big avenues of investigation. So they hired the Nazi doctors who had been involved in that project to advise them.

Another thing the Nazis provided was information about poison gases like sarin, which is still being used. Nazi doctors came to America to Fort Detrick in Maryland, which was the center of this project, to lecture to CIA officers to tell them how long it took for people to die from sarin.


Hail hydra...


gthog61
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
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I get your point but I think the biggest reason is it would shrink government. IRS would essentially become obsolete overnight. That would be my guess as first reason the left would not vote for it.




The tax code is the biggest source of power and control that politicians actually have. They are not going to vote to give that up.


Sunbeam
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I still don't think these guys originated this process from scratch.

Just a codification of an ancient tradition. I'd also bet the drugs they use are derived/inspired by the same ones that were used as long ago... as well Greece, Rome, Sumeria...


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TigerWhatIR
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
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The tax code is the biggest source of power and control that politicians actually have. They are not going to vote to give that up.


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WE
DO
NOT
NEED
THEIR
PERMISSION


The only truly fair “Fair/Flat Tax Rate” is 0%. Taxation is theft. What’s the fair rate of theft, or rape, or murder? Changing the accounting method or distribution of theft doesn’t solve the problem.

The Cabal will stay in power as long as the tax slaves remain brainwashed enough to keep supporting and paying a portion of their own labor to these pedovores under the guise of this big deception that “theft is the price we pay for a ‘civilized’ society.”

Instead, we should be directly paying for our essential services as we use them in the Free Market.


mooseofterror
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
Term to be aware of - Social Credit Score

Social Credit Score for gun ownership.

I really hope this is just distraction and that Trump is really not considering this.

The vid references the Black Mirror episode about "social scores".

Very interesting concept and something we should all be aware of.
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notsince98
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I really hope this is just distraction and that Trump is really not considering this.


He will listen, evaluate and respond. We all know very well there is no point pontificating about Trump doing the first 2. You have to wait for the Trump response before getting concerned.

Just about every single liberal proposal he has looked into, he turned it around to show how it would hurt liberals.

It is a good look for him to show initial willingness to consider anything.


notsince98
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
also note that Trump's tweets are getting MUCH more specific stating the deep state tactics clearly and publicly. For example:

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Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago

....This is a phony suppression poll, meant to build up their Democrat partners. I haven’t even started campaigning yet, and am constantly fighting Fake News like Russia, Russia, Russia. Look at North Carolina last night. Dan Bishop, down big in the Polls, WINS. Easier than 2016!


Previously, he would have said something about how polls were wrong in 2016 and how it was shame the polls were possibly intentionally wrong. Now he is flat out saying they are rigging polls AND why they are doing it.

He is daring the MSM to refute him as he gets more specific.


saints5021
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
Any news on 8 Chan? Will they be back up soon?


notsince98
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re: Q: p4769: Epstein suicided... - Unraveling ToE Thread
I think the best we got is Watkins said he felt he needed to get it back online ASAP but no quantification of what ASAP would be.


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