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Putting the myth that migrants are taking the jobs Americans need to bed
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:10 pm
In 2013, NC needed 6,500 farm workers. Even with preferential hiring practices only 7 Americans lasted the growing season. More proff Americans are just lazy.
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That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent. When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last. In 2011, 245 people were hired out of 268 referred, but only 163 (66.5 percent) of the hired applicants actually showed up to the first day of work. Worse, only seven lasted to the end of the growing season:
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And Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:
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or one thing, the share of workers completing the growing season didn't increase during the recession, during which wages for NCGA jobs grew relative to other wages in the economy. "The increase in unemployment mirrors a loss of wages generally in the economy — decreased availability of jobs everywhere else in the economy should be reflected in an increased interest in the NCGA farm jobs because people’s ability to earn income across the broader economy is more limited, making these jobs more valuable in comparison," Clemens explains. That suggests that similar in scale wage increases wouldn't spur increased demand for these jobs on the part of native workers either. Further, if wages increased too much, these businesses wouldn't be profitable and all the jobs would disappear. Clemens notes that this appears to be the case for cucumber farming. "If wages were doubled, raising the hourly wage for collecting cucumbers from $9.70 to $19.40, it would be impossible for farmers to grow cucumbers profitably – the farmers’ labor cost per acre per year would be too high," he writes.
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This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:14 pm to TJGator1215
I'm more concerned about the entitlement programs they take advantage of and are a burden on American taxpayers.
I'm more concerned about the extra care their children need in our schools to help them learn.
I'm more concerned about the extra care their children need in our schools to help them learn.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:16 pm to TJGator1215
Ok, they still don't have to pay income taxes and the burden of over 100 billion dollars a year is on the tax payers.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:21 pm to TJGator1215
edit. I don't know what migrant means.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:24 pm to TJGator1215
quote:What would be the yearly gross income of a worker that's paid $9.70 after taxes in North Carolina?
$9.70
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:24 pm to TJGator1215
Make the prisoners do it. You don't work you get bread and water, live in a tent city/no A/C, combat showers, surrounded by razor wire.
Problem solved.
I'd gladly pay more to ensure the country was secure.
Problem solved.
I'd gladly pay more to ensure the country was secure.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:34 pm to TJGator1215
TJGator1215, it is as if you have a 5th grade understanding of economics when you take that linked story and combine it with the lie of your thread headline. YOU ARE FAKE NEWS!
So agriculture is the only employment category for illegal immigration?? Really?
What about all the downward pressure that illegal immigration puts on wages in our cities and towns? If it weren't for illegal immigrants (and even some legal immigration practices), there wouldn't even need to be a push for a $15/hr minimum wage, because employers would be forced to raise wages.
That is the problem, illegal immigration sucks down wages, how do you dumb liberal motherfrickers not realize this?
Sure, we can find ways to handle agriculture, with certain measures to bring in migrants... but frick your misleading headline!!
So agriculture is the only employment category for illegal immigration?? Really?
What about all the downward pressure that illegal immigration puts on wages in our cities and towns? If it weren't for illegal immigrants (and even some legal immigration practices), there wouldn't even need to be a push for a $15/hr minimum wage, because employers would be forced to raise wages.
That is the problem, illegal immigration sucks down wages, how do you dumb liberal motherfrickers not realize this?
Sure, we can find ways to handle agriculture, with certain measures to bring in migrants... but frick your misleading headline!!
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:43 pm to TJGator1215
It's against the law to hire illegal immigrants. They can come here and work legally or GTFO.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:45 pm to TJGator1215
I have long advocated for letting the Mexicans who work stay and sending lazy welfare lifers to Mexico, regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or where they were born (don't want to discriminate after all).
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:46 pm to TJGator1215
Do they drive down wages?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:48 pm to TJGator1215
I don't give a RAT frick. We're still kicking out the illegals and putting up a huge wall. Deal with it.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:51 pm to TJGator1215
Can we deport the domestic unemployed and keep the Mexicans? Cause I'd be totally for that.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:51 pm to TJGator1215
So what you're saying is without illegal immigrants taking these jobs for low wages, the companies would be forced to raise wages to get Americans to do them?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:52 pm to TJGator1215
I upvoted cause its true. You can't find quality Americans who are willing to do farmwork.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:03 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I'm more concerned about the entitlement programs they take advantage of and are a burden on American taxpayers. I'm more concerned about the extra care their children need in our schools to help them learn.
Those entitlements more than make up for the hourly scale. Joe Blow doesn't get those.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:06 pm to Seldom Seen
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You can't find quality Americans who are willing to do farmwork.
What, exactly, is a "quality American"?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:08 pm to Dale51
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What, exactly, is a "quality American"?
Apparently it's anyone who isn't a heterosexual white male.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:09 pm to TJGator1215
I'm ok with legal migrant farm workers who pick, get paid, and go back home when their work visas expire.
Illegal aliens no!
Illegal aliens no!
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:14 pm to Seldom Seen
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can't find quality Americans who are willing to do farmwork.
At $10/hr.
Correct.
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