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Putting the myth that migrants are taking the jobs Americans need to bed

Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:10 pm
In 2013, NC needed 6,500 farm workers. Even with preferential hiring practices only 7 Americans lasted the growing season. More proff Americans are just lazy.

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That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent. When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last. In 2011, 245 people were hired out of 268 referred, but only 163 (66.5 percent) of the hired applicants actually showed up to the first day of work. Worse, only seven lasted to the end of the growing season:


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And Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:


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or one thing, the share of workers completing the growing season didn't increase during the recession, during which wages for NCGA jobs grew relative to other wages in the economy. "The increase in unemployment mirrors a loss of wages generally in the economy — decreased availability of jobs everywhere else in the economy should be reflected in an increased interest in the NCGA farm jobs because people’s ability to earn income across the broader economy is more limited, making these jobs more valuable in comparison," Clemens explains. That suggests that similar in scale wage increases wouldn't spur increased demand for these jobs on the part of native workers either. Further, if wages increased too much, these businesses wouldn't be profitable and all the jobs would disappear. Clemens notes that this appears to be the case for cucumber farming. "If wages were doubled, raising the hourly wage for collecting cucumbers from $9.70 to $19.40, it would be impossible for farmers to grow cucumbers profitably – the farmers’ labor cost per acre per year would be too high," he writes.


LINK

This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105376 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:14 pm to
I'm more concerned about the entitlement programs they take advantage of and are a burden on American taxpayers.

I'm more concerned about the extra care their children need in our schools to help them learn.

Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:16 pm to
Ok, they still don't have to pay income taxes and the burden of over 100 billion dollars a year is on the tax payers.
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
5687 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:21 pm to
edit. I don't know what migrant means.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Shadowlink
The Shadows
Member since Apr 2014
1434 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:24 pm to
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$9.70
What would be the yearly gross income of a worker that's paid $9.70 after taxes in North Carolina?
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24717 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:24 pm to
Make the prisoners do it. You don't work you get bread and water, live in a tent city/no A/C, combat showers, surrounded by razor wire.

Problem solved.

I'd gladly pay more to ensure the country was secure.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:34 pm to
TJGator1215, it is as if you have a 5th grade understanding of economics when you take that linked story and combine it with the lie of your thread headline. YOU ARE FAKE NEWS!

So agriculture is the only employment category for illegal immigration?? Really?

What about all the downward pressure that illegal immigration puts on wages in our cities and towns? If it weren't for illegal immigrants (and even some legal immigration practices), there wouldn't even need to be a push for a $15/hr minimum wage, because employers would be forced to raise wages.

That is the problem, illegal immigration sucks down wages, how do you dumb liberal motherfrickers not realize this?

Sure, we can find ways to handle agriculture, with certain measures to bring in migrants... but frick your misleading headline!!
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23282 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:43 pm to
It's against the law to hire illegal immigrants. They can come here and work legally or GTFO.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98715 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:45 pm to
I have long advocated for letting the Mexicans who work stay and sending lazy welfare lifers to Mexico, regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or where they were born (don't want to discriminate after all).
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:46 pm to
Do they drive down wages?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:48 pm to



I don't give a RAT frick. We're still kicking out the illegals and putting up a huge wall. Deal with it.


Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7505 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:51 pm to
Can we deport the domestic unemployed and keep the Mexicans? Cause I'd be totally for that.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33850 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:51 pm to
So what you're saying is without illegal immigrants taking these jobs for low wages, the companies would be forced to raise wages to get Americans to do them?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98715 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:52 pm to
See my position above.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:52 pm to
I upvoted cause its true. You can't find quality Americans who are willing to do farmwork.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:03 pm to
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I'm more concerned about the entitlement programs they take advantage of and are a burden on American taxpayers. I'm more concerned about the extra care their children need in our schools to help them learn.



Those entitlements more than make up for the hourly scale. Joe Blow doesn't get those.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:06 pm to
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You can't find quality Americans who are willing to do farmwork.

What, exactly, is a "quality American"?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98715 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:08 pm to
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What, exactly, is a "quality American"?


Apparently it's anyone who isn't a heterosexual white male.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:09 pm to
I'm ok with legal migrant farm workers who pick, get paid, and go back home when their work visas expire.

Illegal aliens no!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:14 pm to
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can't find quality Americans who are willing to do farmwork.

At $10/hr.

Correct.
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