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Putting aside the federal government, state governments are also bloated with gov't jobs

Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:54 pm
New York for a long time has a bloated state workforce, but why does a state like Louisiana with a meager population have such a big state workforce? No wonder you can't lower taxes there, too many people in their cushy gov't jobs are siphoning off tax revenue and of course firing a state employee is damn near impossible without a law suit or having to hurdle through red tape.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:58 pm to
The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:13 pm to
Definitely the truth. Need to cut the gov't payroll by 1/3 easily.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8491 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:26 pm to
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Need to cut the gov't payroll by 1/3 easily.


At least half. A good majority of government jobs can be contracted out resulting in better service. It is very difficult to get fired from many government jobs and many job appointments are based on skin color and not individual merit. Many government jobs are poorly managed and are a nuisance to the public.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:27 pm to
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Need to cut the gov't payroll by 1/3 easily

Needs to be cut much more than one-third.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5000 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 6:20 am to
And they don’t get taxed on their pensions.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 6:21 am to
They are parasites like welfare recipients.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70910 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 6:26 am to
I prefer the contractor option.

Drain the swamp!
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7349 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 6:37 am to
Not if we are paying contractors double than what what an employee makes.

Don’t get me wrong contractors work in some segments of government, but if I have to pay a contractor 100k for a job that pays only 40k, we are not saving money. And usually that 60k in overhead is going to some politically connected company.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 6:37 am to
The state politicians need to hand out jobs to win votes bottom line.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 6:38 am to
Government jobs at every level are bloated....gotta love those that don't work but spend our tax $$
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70910 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 6:42 am to
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Not if we are paying contractors double than what what an employee makes.


I'm OK with that. I like making money, and if these "conservatives" are foolish enough to continue giving it to me, I'm just fine with that.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 7:08 am to
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I prefer the contractor option.


Like DOTD does? They has over a thousand employees but not a single one actually builds a road or bridge and many, MANY of their projects end up taking far longer and are more expensive than the original projections. Hell, just look at how long it took them to finish off 10 after the split or the Vinton welcome center (still under construction after... what? 3 years? 4?)

#BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 7:45 am to
yep - pretty sure there are a lot more federal contractors than federal employees.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45958 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 7:53 am to
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Putting aside the federal government, state governments are also bloated with gov't jobs by Parmen


It’s crazy how much has changed in 40 years. When I was a young man government jobs in general were considered less desirable than private sector employment. Today government jobs be it state or federal are better than most private sector jobs when factoring in all the Holidays and benefits. Almost all government jobs have a retirement savings plan and pension.
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:47 am to
After every election many democrat campaign workers are put on the state payroll. The Union activists wives and family members are made arse't trainees in many offices. Teamsters union wives or older children go into the Transportation Dept. SEIU and AFL-CIO union members go into the Dept. of Education as arse't curriculum supervisors in-training, etc. They make phone calls and campaign for Democrats while working for the state in the next election and give $20 every two weeks paycheck to the Union/Dem. campaign fund.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:59 am to
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prefer the contractor option.

Drain the swamp!


Lololololololololololololololol
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70910 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:12 am to
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Like DOTD does?


Yep, pretty much exactly like that. If Trump is eager to waste money, I might as well be one of the people collecting it.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51451 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:36 am to
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Yep, pretty much exactly like that. If Trump is eager to waste money, I might as well be one of the people collecting it.


Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 9:56 am to
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Not if we are paying contractors double than what what an employee makes.

Don’t get me wrong contractors work in some segments of government, but if I have to pay a contractor 100k for a job that pays only 40k, we are not saving money. And usually that 60k in overhead is going to some politically connected company.



Bid it out and you'll get a fair price. Sometimes it pays yo pay more because the job is done right and bonds protect the work. Star employees d ont give a shite and do half arse work that has to be redone which raises the iverall cost of the work...throw in that state depts benefits long term to those employees, and it runs just as much as using private contractors.
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