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Projected Number of Days Until Reaching Herd Immunity Threshold

Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:59 am
Posted by BaldEagleHey
Member since May 2020
450 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:59 am
This is a great article walking through the covid numbers and gives great insight to Herd Immunity Threshold (HIT) and Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), Makes a very strong case explaining the "Second Wave::
Article Link

Based on the article above and the studies linked in it, it is estimated that the HIT (Herd Immunity Threshold) is between 10-20% (originally projected at 70%). Sweden achieved a 17% HIT.

Additionally, multiple studies have been conducted to project the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR or CFR - Case). Here is a summary of the studies Article LINK. The CDC has projected a .26% IFR (annual flu is .10%) Article LINK.




If we take the weighted average (weighted more towards the US projections), we get to an IFR of .185%. From these two estimates and the actual number of daily new cases, we can project how many days are left until we have achieved the HIT for each state as well as the projected number of additional deaths.



As you can see, there are a few outliers. Throw out NJ - like NY, they reclassified 2,700 non-covid deaths as covid on June 25. So their actual number of new deaths is close to NY.

LA, MS and AZ are still showing high rates of increasing cases and deaths. My guess is their IFR will exceed the .185% threshold when it is all said an done.

Just thought it was worth guesstimating to see when this thing might end.


Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23480 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:03 am to
I’m not reading all that shite. How many Estimated days?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:05 am to
This looks great. Thank you for posting this.

I had suspected for awhile the 70-80% needed for herd immunity was incorrect seeing as how the virus swept through Europe without millions of deaths.

Just a few months away in a lot of states.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 8:11 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:06 am to
Check the bottom table.

LA already has reached HIT.

Alabama and Florida are at around 13%, approximately 80-90 days till HIT at current rates.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34558 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:06 am to
The media is telling me herd immunity is a lie and won’t ever happen
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30091 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:07 am to
Not to thread jack...but is this why we aren’t seeing a surge in Europe? Aside from the amount of testing we are doing.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 8:09 am
Posted by PNW_TigerSaint
Member since Oct 2016
1012 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:13 am to
80-90 days might be too late.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:14 am to
It’s better than just always being a lingering threat until the Microsoft vaccine
Posted by BigB123
Texas
Member since Dec 2018
985 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:18 am to
277 days for Texas? Nope, don’t like that at all.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17741 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:19 am to
I project Election Day is the threshold
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23100 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:20 am to
quote:

277 days for Texas? Nope, don’t like that at all.



Retards shut down Texas for no reason and now we are still a fricking year from HIT
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42465 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Projected Number of Days Until Reaching Herd Immunity Threshold


Ive spent several minutes searching for a simple number teased in your subject title

Is there a number of days to be found anywhere??

Make it easy on us for this stuff.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111470 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Retards shut down Texas for no reason


The quasi-national shutdown didn’t make any sense. It was a feel good response. “We’re all in this together.”
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42465 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:25 am to
quote:

277 days for Texas? Nope, don’t like that at all


could hasten that up by letting the bug do its work now.

same number of people are gonna die before herd immunity is achieved - this just spreads it out over longer timeframe - Dems are hell-bent on it being long enough to sway an election.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111470 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Guess what? Scientists are now showing evidence that up to 81% of us can mount a strong response to COVID-19 without ever having been exposed to it before:


But it’s novel!!
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:59 am to
Yeah remember the calculation is a function of current infection rate which isn’t completely accurate to use.

Texas is geographically large and will take a bit to ramp up but I’d imagine it won’t take long once it gets going.

New York and LA reached HIT quickly because of seeding and spreading events.
Posted by BaldEagleHey
Member since May 2020
450 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Is there a number of days to be found anywhere??


Look on the RED line in the bottom table. It gives the number of days by State.
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
4660 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:11 am to
How do we ever know if we have reached Heard Immunity if everyone is screwing with the numbers?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111470 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Yeah remember the calculation is a function of current infection rate which isn’t completely accurate to use.


If you take the 7 day rolling deaths per day average, divide by 0.0026 and multiply by 7, you can see that it would be reached relatively quickly.

After today, the 7-day moving average should be around 120 deaths. That should represent ~46k infections. Over a week, that would represent 323k infected. Meaning at the current rate (which is actually likely accelerating), Texas would gain around 1.1% towards the HIT this week.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111470 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:15 am to
quote:

How do we ever know if we have reached Heard Immunity if everyone is screwing with the numbers?


That’s a fair point. But the data is all we’ve got. Plus, if we use current deaths to project a faster progression to HIT, maybe they slow down the death reporting.

In likelihood, the deaths reporting is mostly screwy with regards to date. To that end, they still represent a progression towards HIT.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 9:17 am
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