re: Progressives are the ones with blood on their hands

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You've never been to Canada.

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I have - Banff is wonderful!

But, still, where are all the Canadian mass shootings?

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The incident began when 16-year-old Michael Slobodian[1] brought two rifles to school in a guitar case.[2] Slobodian began firing in a boys' washroom.[3] Slobodian first killed fellow student John Slinger in the washroom and wounded two others. He then entered the hallway and continued shooting, wounding several students. He proceeded to an art classroom, killed English teacher Margaret Wright and wounded two more students. After, he went back into the hallway and killed himself, adjacent to the art classroom. The total number of fatalities were 3. The total wounded were 13.[4] Witnesses of the shooting included students Cathy and Nancy Davis, the daughters of Ontario Premier William Davis. Another witness of the shooting was future The Kids in the Hall star, Scott Thompson who was a classmate and acquaintance of Slobodian. Slobodian wrote a note to his family saying he was "fed up with life" and "he was going to eliminate two teachers" (including Mrs. Wright). He wanted to get revenge because he hated the school system.

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Around 2:30 p.m. on Monday, August 24, 1992, Fabrikant walked onto the ninth floor of the Henry F. Hall Building. He was carrying a briefcase that contained three handguns (a Snub nosed Smith & Wesson .38-calibre 5-shot Revolver, a German-made 6.35mm Meb Pistol with a 6-round magazine, and an Argentinian-made 7.65mm Bersa pistol with an 8-round magazine) and a large amount of ammunition.

First he went looking for Dean of Engineering and Computer Science Dr. Srikanta Swamy and Dr. M.O.M (Sam) Osman (the chair of the mechanical-engineering department). Neither was in. He next headed to his own office where he was scheduled to meet Michael Hogben, the president of the Concordia University Faculty Association (CUFA). According to police, Hogben attempted to give Fabrikant a letter setting out the conditions under which he would be allowed to visit the CUFA offices. The letter noted Fabrikant's access would be restricted because his behaviour was causing those who worked there "considerable distress". Fabrikant took out his .38 calibre pistol and shot Hogben three times. Hogben fell to the floor and died shortly thereafter.

A faculty colleague, Dr. Aaron Jaan Saber, called out from his office nearby. Fabrikant crossed the hall and fired two shots into Saber, who died in hospital the next day. Back in the hall, heading back to Osman's office again, he fired at Elizabeth Horwood, wounding her in the thigh. Fabrikant worked his way through the ninth floor corridors to the other side of the building and into the office of Dr. Phoivos Ziogas (chair of the electrical and computer-engineering department), who was talking with colleague Dr. Otto Schwelb. Fabrikant shot Ziogas twice; he died in hospital a month later. He scuffled with Schwelb, who took control of the pistol. Unaware that Fabrikant had two other guns in his briefcase, Schwelb went back to tend the injured Ziogas.

Dr. Matthew Douglass (a professor of civil engineering known to be close to Dean Swamy), tried to reason with Fabrikant when he arrived at the dean's office. Fabrikant shot him four times, and Douglass died almost instantly.

Fabrikant took a security guard and another professor (Dr. George Abdou) hostage, locked himself in an office, and called an emergency operator. He said he had just "made several murders" and wanted to talk to a TV reporter. He stayed on the line for an hour. When he briefly put his gun down to adjust the phone, Abdou kicked it away and the security guard overpowered him.[2]

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At 12:30 p.m. EDT, Gill parked his car on de Maisonneuve Boulevard near the college campus and was seen removing weapons from his trunk by bystanders. Gill briefly took a passerby hostage and forced him to carry a bag containing a fourth gun and additional ammunition. Gill opened fire at students outside on the steps of Dawson College at its rear entrance with a semi-automatic carbine, and the passerby fled the melee, leaving Gill's bag.[7]

Gill then entered the school and made his way to the cafeteria, almost directly ahead of the school entrance. He positioned himself in the corner of the building, near the microwave oven, and set his bag on the floor. He loaded a pistol, fired a shot into the floor and then shot students who were standing in front of him. He then raised his weapon and ordered the remaining students to lie down on the floor. He continued shooting at students until confronted by two police officers who had been visiting the school at the time regarding an unrelated incident. The police officers entered after hearing the gunfire, and rushed to the cafeteria. Additional police officers surrounded the campus. Confronted by police officers in the school cafeteria, Gill briefly took two more people hostage.[8] He was shot in the arm by police officer Denis Côté and then committed suicide via a gunshot wound to the head at 12:48 EDT.[6] The police officers attempted to resuscitate him, but failed. At 1:30 p.m., police officers dragged his body outside the building, covered it with a yellow bag, then continued the evacuation and the search for possible accomplices.[9][10] Authorities concluded the attack was premeditated, after a short suicide note was found on Gill's body during the autopsy.[11]

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According to police, the shootings began at a residence in the 300 block of Dene Crescent, where the suspect shot two of his cousins some time before 1:00 p.m.[2][8][9][10] He then went to La Loche Community School's Dene Building[a] and began firing at around 1:05, shortly before lunch ended,[13] reportedly with a shotgun.[14][15] He fired at least six or seven shots inside the building, killing a teacher and an assistant and wounding seven others.[1][3][5][9] The school shooting lasted for about eight minutes.[16]

Between 1:08 and 1:10, a suspect with a gun was spotted by a responding officer, who chased him through the building and eventually arrested him outside at 1:15.[8][16] Afterwards, police were notified of the bodies at the residence on Dene Crescent.[8] Both the Dene Building and the elementary school were put on lockdown during the shooting.[17] The suspect reportedly posted his intentions on Facebook.[18][19]

Of about 350 enrolled students, around 150 were at school at the time, since many had taken final exams that morning and had no further classes.[20]

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And?

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Sometime after 4 p.m. on December 6, 1989, Marc Lépine arrived at the building housing the École Polytechnique, an engineering school affiliated with the Université de Montréal, armed with a semi-automatic rifle and a hunting knife.[1] He had purchased a rifle on November 21, 1989, in a Checkmate Sports store in Montreal, telling the clerk that he was going to use it to hunt small game.[2] Lépine was familiar with the layout of the building since he had been in and around the École Polytechnique at least seven times in the weeks leading up to the event.[1]

oblique view of a long, modern building about 6 storeys high, with many windows and large main entrance
Exterior of École Polytechnique de Montréal
Lépine sat for a time in the office of the registrar on the second floor. He was seen rummaging through a plastic bag and did not speak to anyone, even when a staff member asked if she could help him. He left the office and was subsequently seen in other parts of the building before entering a second-floor mechanical engineering class of about sixty students at about 5:10 p.m.[1] After approaching the student giving a presentation, he asked everyone to stop everything and ordered the women and men to opposite sides of the classroom. No one moved at first, believing it to be a joke until he fired a shot into the ceiling.[3]

Lépine then separated the nine women from the approximately fifty men and ordered the men to leave.[4] Speaking in French, he asked the remaining women whether they knew why he was there, and when one student replied "no," he answered: "I am fighting feminism." One of the students, Nathalie Provost, said, "Look, we are just women studying engineering, not necessarily feminists ready to march on the streets to shout we are against men, just students intent on leading a normal life." Lépine responded, "You're women, you're going to be engineers. You're all a bunch of feminists. I hate feminists." He then opened fire on the students from left to right, killing six, and wounding three others, including Provost.[1][5] Before leaving the room, he wrote merde twice on a student project.[4]

Lépine continued into the second-floor corridor and wounded three students before entering another room where he twice attempted to shoot a female student. When his weapon failed to fire, he entered the emergency staircase where he was seen reloading his gun. He returned to the room he had just left, but the students had locked the door; Lépine failed to unlock it with three shots fired into the door. Moving along the corridor, he shot at others, wounding one, before moving towards the financial services office where he shot and killed a woman through the window of the door she had just locked.[1]

view of a classroom from the rear, with blackboard and three desks and tables at the front of the class, and five rows of long curved student desks with blue chairs attached.
The third floor classroom in the École Polytechnique in which the attack ended
He next went down to the first-floor cafeteria, in which about a hundred people were gathered. The crowd scattered after he shot a woman standing near the kitchens and wounded another student. Entering an unlocked storage area at the end of the cafeteria, Lépine shot and killed two more women hiding there. He told a male and female student to come out from under a table; they complied and were not shot.[1]

Lépine then walked up an escalator to the third floor where he shot and wounded one female and two male students in the corridor. He entered another classroom and told the three students giving a presentation to "get out," shooting and wounding Maryse Leclair, who was standing on the low platform at the front of the classroom. He fired on students in the front row and then killed two women who were trying to escape the room, while other students dived under their desks. Lépine moved towards some of the female students, wounding three of them and killing another. He changed the magazine in his weapon and moved to the front of the class, shooting in all directions. At this point, the wounded Leclair asked for help; Lépine unsheathed his hunting knife and stabbed her three times, killing her. He took off his cap, wrapped his coat around his rifle, exclaimed, "Ah shite," and then committed suicide by shooting himself in the head, twenty minutes after having begun his attack.[6] About sixty unfired cartridges remained in the boxes he carried with him. He had killed fourteen women in total (twelve engineering students, one nursing student and one employee of the university) and injured fourteen other people, including four men.[1][6]

After briefing reporters outside, Montreal Police director of public relations Pierre Leclair entered the building and found his daughter Maryse's stabbed body.[7][8]

The Quebec and Montreal governments declared three days of mourning.[7] A joint funeral for nine of the women was held at Notre-Dame Basilica on December 11, 1989, and was attended by Governor General Jeanne Sauvé, Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, Quebec premier Robert Bourassa, and Montreal mayor Jean Doré, along with thousands of other mourners.[8]

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The St. Pius X High School shooting occurred on October 27, 1975, at St. Pius X High School in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. It was Canada's second recorded school shooting. The gunman, Robert Poulin, an 18-year-old St. Pius student, opened fire on his classmates with a shotgun, killing one and wounding five before killing himself.[1][2] Poulin had raped and stabbed 17-year-old Kim Rabot to death prior to the incident. A book entitled Rape of a Normal Mind[3] was written about the incident.

Robert came from a military family and had military aspirations of his own. These were largely thwarted by his physical condition and psychological immaturity, resulting in his being rejected from the officer training program he applied to. His physical problems included poor eyesight and a chest deformity. He was obsessed with sex and pornography, and had written about wanting to have sex before he died. He had been suicidal at least three years prior to his attack.[4]

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Progressives are the ones with blood on their hands

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Progressives won't admit that their social experiment in gun-free zones in schools has failed.

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What are you going to say now, BamaAtl?

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I can accept that there may be a time and place for a gun free zone. Airports are a good example.

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BamaAtl

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Progressives won't admit that their social experiment in gun-free zones in schools has failed.

It's time for them to grow up and take responsibility for their stupid idea to have gun-free zones in schools.

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Progressives won't admit that their social experiment in gun-free zones in schools has failed. 

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That's a determent or way to stop the shooter once it happens.

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Just think there are many possible ways to address this. I have no idea how to go about that though.

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Progressives are the ones with blood on their hands
Progressives won't admit that their social experiment in gun-free zones in schools has failed.

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