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BoarEd
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President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
I saw this story and now the page has been scrubbed. Luckily, someone caught the pertinents before it was scrubbed.

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A top Republican threatened to involve the Justice Department if the Intelligence Community inspector general refuses to deliver "documentary evidence" involving the whistleblower whose complaint spurred the impeachment investigation into President Trump. 

Rep. Devin Nunes, the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, gave Inspector General Michael Atkinson until Valentines Friday (2/14/2020) to hand over information that could help illuminate questions surrounding the timeline and procedural protocol used to vet the whistleblower complaint that centered on Trump's July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. 

The California Republican decried what he called the "unusual handling" of the complaint process and said he will refer the matter to the Justice Department if Atkinson's office refuses to comply, after months of outreach. 

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Rep. Jim Jordan first raised concerns along with Nunes about the process in a Sept. 30, 2019 letter to Atkinson. The Republican trio found Atkinson's response "incomplete, vague, and/or evasive." 

Nunes sent another letter to the IGIC office on Jan. 11 but again determined the inspector general's answers to be "equally unsatisfactory." 

The whistleblower, believed by some to be career CIA analyst Eric Ciaramella, filed a complaint to Atkinson's office on Aug. 12, 2019. Atkinson determined the complaint to be "urgent" and credible. And with permission from the acting director of national intelligence, notified Congress of its existence. Thus sparking what would become the impeachment of President Trump by the Democrat-controlled U.S. House. 

Nunes, a vocal defender of the president, has expressed particular concern with a change to the whistleblower complaint submission form. A change that allowed for "hearsay" information to be included. 

"The investigation is particularly focused on the guidelines that appeared on a whistleblower complaint submission form that was changed — after the submission of the whistleblower complaint — to eliminate language excluding hearsay information." 

Republicans raised concerns about the timing of changes to the whistleblower complaint form. 

But Atkinson defended the filing process, claiming the intelligence community has the authority to launch investigations based on second-hand information, and that the change in form had no direct connection to the timing of the whistleblower complaint on Aug. 12. 

The Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel issued a statement saying it believed the whistleblower complaint did not possess an "urgent concern."


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I've seen this several times over the last few days -- articles being quickly scrubbed from the net. What's up with that I wonder??


Turbeauxdog
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
He should.

That scoundrel either allowed this scam or took part in it.


aTmTexas Dillo
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson


Did you cover this is your post? It's all interesting about Nunes and others but I guess you are just speculating about Trump's consideration. If not, why didn't you post an article about Trump consideration for termination?


Sid in Lakeshore
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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why didn't you post an article about Trump consideration for termination?


"it was scrubbed from the internet"?


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BoarEd
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
Did you try clicking the link to the article? I clearly stated it has been scrubbed. The part that I quoted was just the part describing why he may be terminated. The rest of the article is gone. But yes, Trump is considering firing him for the reasons quoted above.


BoarEd
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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He should.


Agreed.


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aTmTexas Dillo
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Then I guess it didn't happen.
I guess I'm supposed to get all excited about stuff that is no longer printed or accessible on the internet. I'll check back in two weeks to see if the ICIG is fired.
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BoarEd
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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Then I guess it didn't happen.


Unfortunately that's not how it works. Trump is either considering firing him or he isn't. Having an article about it scrubbed from the net doesn't mean none of it happened.

Good try though.


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HubbaBubba
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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But yes, Trump is considering firing him for the reasons quoted above. 
Speculation by "sauces"



BoarEd
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
Is that a picture of you inserting an invisible cock in your mouth?


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BoarEd
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
So now, three months later, he is "considering it" again?

Come on, President Trump. Stop considering it and just fricking do it already.

Although I guess that maybe he wanted to wait until after peachment.


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Northwestern tiger
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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mmcgrath
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
Isn't the ICIG the one person forbidden by law to reveal the WB?


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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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Is that a picture of you inserting an invisible cock in your mouth?
When someone disagrees with you, you scream and yell like a child and name call--Then when you get called out-- you pull the fire alarm just like a victim that one other person from your group does. You seem to enjoy feeding the flames.

A President cannot fire an IG. Yes, Obama fired IG Gerald Walpin early in his Presidency. Is this thread title out there already-yes. But I would think that if IG Atkinson continues to stonewall something has to break. But a President can't fire an IG no matter how warranted.
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Wtodd
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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Rep. Devin Nunes, the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, gave Inspector General Michael Atkinson until Valentines Friday (2/14/2020)

Valentines Day Massacre II


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The Maj
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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A President cannot fire an IG.


What has changed since this?

An Inspector General may be removed from office by the President. If an Inspector General is removed from office or is transferred to another position or location within an establishment, the President shall communicate in writing the reasons for any such removal or transfer to both Houses of Congress, not later than 30 days before the removal or transfer. Nothing in this subsection shall prohibit a personnel action otherwise authorized by law, other than transfer or removal.

5a U.S. Code §?3.Appointment of Inspector General; supervision; removal; political activities; appointment of Assistant Inspector General for Auditing and Assistant Inspector General for Investigations


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BoarEd
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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I've just fricking said that in the OP. It's literally in the first damn sentence of this thread.

It isn't about fanning flames. It's about being gobsmacked that people apparently can't read the damn OP and instead feel the need to jump in and say something that was clearly already said.


BoarEd
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
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When someone disagrees with you, you scream and yell like a child


You're the last motherfricker that should be calling people out about anything.

90% of your contributions on this board are personal attacks.

Also, you're dead wrong about a President being able to fire an IG. As you stated yourself, Obama did it. And someone else posted the relevant statutes that give POTUS that authority.

Will you concede you don't know what you're talking about or will you throw more bull shite at the wall?
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cajunangelle
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re: President Trump is Considering Terminating the ICIG Michael Atkinson
This is unprecedented. A President can't fire an IG. Obama did and no one GAF. They would surely impeach Trump for it.

There has to be an unprecedented recourse when an IG is stonewalling. If the 18th witness 100 page long transcript were released it would all be over. It won't be so Nunes has to have some recourse to take. But if Trump fired him peach mint would take hold immediately.

Only democrats (Obama) are above the law and regulations when he fired IG Gerald Walpin. Possibly Trump would like to fire him but can't. Past articles are of the media saying Trump will (as in daring him to) Maybe no one did the basic homework that he can't w/o severe retribution?


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