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Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:48 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:48 am
Perhaps it is time for Democrats not be "Republican Light" but "Left Extreme" to get more Southern support? Doug Jones from what I read did NOT run as a wimpy centrist "the era of big government is over" Clintonite.
Maybe it is finally time for a left part to engage the southern poor and harness an alliance of the left behind?
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Maybe it is finally time for a left part to engage the southern poor and harness an alliance of the left behind?
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:50 am to Eurocat
Is this code for identity politics on a larger scale?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:51 am to Eurocat
Yes. Do it. Take this election to be a green light for the party to embrace the Sanders wing.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:51 am to Eurocat
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but "Left Extreme" to get more Southern support? Doug Jones from what I read did NOT run as a wimpy centrist "the era of big government is over" Clintonite.
Yes, please do that
Doug Jones needed the help of millions of dollars, the entire DNC and a national smear campaign by much of the media in order to win by a handful of votes. Trying to paint this as a referendum against the GOP is about as accurate as painting JBE's win as such.
The Left has lost far more elections in the past 20 years by running primarily on identity politics than they've won. This won't work out like you're expecting it to.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:59 am to Eurocat
Are you kidding?
Jones winning was probably good for Alabama but if you've been told that he ran as a Bernie Sanders' leftist, you've been misled. Every other commercial was about how he loved the Lord, how he owned multiple guns, and how he would not raise taxes. It was an onslaught of media trying to convince us that Doug Jones was a moderate.
Jones winning was probably good for Alabama but if you've been told that he ran as a Bernie Sanders' leftist, you've been misled. Every other commercial was about how he loved the Lord, how he owned multiple guns, and how he would not raise taxes. It was an onslaught of media trying to convince us that Doug Jones was a moderate.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:59 am to Ham And Glass
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Every other commercial was about how he loved the Lord, how he owned multiple guns, and how he would not raise taxes. It was an onslaught of media trying to convince us that Doug Jones was a moderate.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:03 am to Eurocat
quote:
Perhaps it is time for Democrats not be "Republican Light" but "Left Extreme" to get more Southern support? Doug Jones from what I read did NOT run as a wimpy centrist "the era of big government is over" Clintonite.
Go for it.
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Maybe it is finally time for a left part to engage the southern poor and harness an alliance of the left behind?
I really think y’all have abused them enough already.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:03 am to Eurocat
I love the "Alabama can't elect a pedo!" screed...then, when Alabama does not elect a "pedo", the opponent claims "Look how successful I was and it shows my PARTY is in vogue"
it is silliness.
I hate that the Fed Gov is so big and powerful that who the frick is elected as Alabama senator is a big deal.
But, damn. Let's not pretend that Jones would win without the accusations of the past several weeks.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 9:04 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:04 am to Eurocat
This is what Bernie Sanders, Shaun King, and others have been arguing - and so far they've been validated.
Black people aren't "not voting" because they're lazy. They've been "not voting" because they're as disillusioned with the corporate Democrats like Hillary and McAulliffe as many of us MAGA types have become with the GOPe.
King and Bernie argue that if you go true leftist and "give the people what they want" you will see increased turnout that you wouldn't believe.
Last night helped vindicate that a bit. We're also seeing in local elections with far-left / socialist candidates for mayor, council seats, etc. in major cities throughout the USA.
The Democrats / blacks / far left have stumbled upon something that was not possible before social media.
Blacks and young voters are going to push the Democrat party so far left that it will be almost unrecognizable in about 10 years. Bank on it. Could be very scary for us traditionalists.
Black people aren't "not voting" because they're lazy. They've been "not voting" because they're as disillusioned with the corporate Democrats like Hillary and McAulliffe as many of us MAGA types have become with the GOPe.
King and Bernie argue that if you go true leftist and "give the people what they want" you will see increased turnout that you wouldn't believe.
Last night helped vindicate that a bit. We're also seeing in local elections with far-left / socialist candidates for mayor, council seats, etc. in major cities throughout the USA.
The Democrats / blacks / far left have stumbled upon something that was not possible before social media.
Blacks and young voters are going to push the Democrat party so far left that it will be almost unrecognizable in about 10 years. Bank on it. Could be very scary for us traditionalists.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:05 am to Bard
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Yes, please do that
I'm not sure we really want this. If blacks and young voters embrace far-left candidates and start voting at 2008 levels for locals and midterms, our country will be changed forever in a very short amount of time. Winning is addictive - they have been scoring huge wins with young black far-left mayors and council members all over the nation. Last night blacks singlehandedly turned that election in a way that we've literally never seen before in this country. It was like MAGA 2016 in reverse.
Social media makes this conceivable. Soros type groups will make it easy to creatively keep this unmined voting bloc engaged and active. This is scary.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:05 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
There you go again, BHP, preaching common sense on a message board where it's not very common.... 
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:06 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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hate that the Fed Gov is so big and powerful that who the frick is elected as Alabama senator is a big deal.
If only I could buy you a beer.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:08 am to Eurocat
I think that is an absolutely
T E R R I F I C idea.
I would recommend getting this over to Soros and your other shitlords asap.
You have forged a workable Dem path forward.
This will definitely work.
T E R R I F I C idea.
I would recommend getting this over to Soros and your other shitlords asap.
You have forged a workable Dem path forward.
This will definitely work.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:08 am to Ham And Glass
Fair point but has anyone ever run as a true "eat the rich" politician since Huey Long in the south?
It could work. Might win in some of the rural parts.
It could work. Might win in some of the rural parts.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:10 am to rooster108bm
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If only I could buy you a beer.
Post a credit card number, exp date, and cvv.
I promise to use it only for a beer.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:10 am to Eurocat
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Fair point but has anyone ever run as a true "eat the rich" politician since Huey Long in the south?
It could work. Might win in some of the rural parts.
Bernie literally did this and it worked fantastically well. If he wasn't such a pussy or if the timing of the states had been more favorable to him, he could have finished Hillary in the same way that Trump finished the GOP
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:11 am to SirWinston
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I'm not sure we really want this. If blacks and young voters embrace far-left candidates and start voting at 2008 levels for locals and midterms, our country will be changed forever in a very short amount of time.
It will eventually happen. No doubt about it. It would have happened a lot sooner had Hillary been elected. We dodged that bullet, but there are plenty more incoming.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:11 am to Eurocat
What Republicans dont want to admit is there a a shite ton of democrats in the South. A democrat just won a senate seat in fricking Alabama, let that sink in.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:12 am to Ham And Glass
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Jones winning was probably good for Alabama but if you've been told that he ran as a Bernie Sanders' leftist, you've been misled. Every other commercial was about how he loved the Lord, how he owned multiple guns, and how he would not raise taxes. It was an onslaught of media trying to convince us that Doug Jones was a moderate.
you want to know how I know pretty much everyone in this thread doesn't live in Alabama and didn't see any of these ads?
FYI - Doug Jones was run as a centrist who could actually work with Washington much better than the nutjob Moore.
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