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re: PoliBoard Healthcare Professionals: Do you trust the CDC?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:51 am to PJinAtl
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:51 am to PJinAtl
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CDC is rarely, if ever, involved with drug trials or approvals. That falls much more under the purview of the FDA. To be honest (regardless of what was shown in Contagion) I'm not really sure how much CDC is even involved in testing drug therapies on novel diseases.
You are 100% correct, why I read CDC and responded with FDA related feedback I have no idea.
I've never interacted with the CDC, I can only speak to the FDA which I can say with 100% certainty is or at least very recently was entirely "captured".
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:51 am to PJinAtl
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CDC is rarely, if ever, involved with drug trials or approvals.
Thanks. Do you trust CDC for its core mission?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:03 pm to OccamsStubble
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I’ll let you guess
Thanks for the image. That sums up my view. I tend to distrust ANYTHING coming from public health agencies. Maybe an over reaction....
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:05 pm to Padme
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I know the federal reserve being “independent” really just means stacked with libs
Never stop being retarded man
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:07 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Crazy4lsu has CDC tattooed on one butt cheek and AMA on the other.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:11 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Do you trust CDC for its core mission?
Hard for me to say currently.
CDC, until recently, was still doing good things.
For example, the Office of Smoking and Health was responsible for the advertising around the 1-800-QUIT-NOW campaign. That campaign was helping tobacco users find resources to quit, which certainly has helped lower the cancer burden in this country. That office was shut down in April as part of the reduction in force cuts and closures.
The Division of Cancer Prevention and Control awarded funding to local health departments and other organizations to promote cancer screening using proven methods that actually get people to a doctor for screening (mailed reminders, phone calls, etc.)
But, as I said in my first post, over the last 4 years the science has been infiltrated by the woke. Trans friendly language, no personal accountability. For example no guidance about stopping having unprotected anal sex with unknown male partners during the monkeypox outbreak. Changing the term from monkeypox to mpox to reduce stigma. Changing language from saying someone is obese to a person has obesity...much like going from a person being an alcoholic to they suffer from alcoholism.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:17 pm to PJinAtl
Thanks again. Hard to trust any reporting on the topic. It's good to hear from people who aren't trying to spin a narrative one way or the other.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:22 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Rarely if ever do I deal with the CDC, occasionally we will get someone with a highly communicable disease that we will have to report but that is extremely rare. During Covid they would request updates pretty often but that is pretty much nonexistent now
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:53 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Is it getting better or worse under MAHA? (FWIW, Kennedy and Gabbard were my favorite appointments.)
Well, considering they just had a new director confirmed and fired in a month's time......it is pretty safe to say that it is a clusterfrick.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:59 pm to LegendInMyMind
To be fair, the CDC is so entrenched in corruption that unless everyone affiliated with it was fired, I don't see how meaningful change is possible.
CDC structures and systems have to change, also.
I asked google the ways in which CDC structures foster corruption:
The CDC relies on "partnerships" with pharmaceutical companies and private contractors for research, distribution, and public health initiatives. This opens the door to regulatory capture, where policies are shaped more by corporate lobbying and financial interests than by the public good. For example, vaccine distribution contracts and pandemic response funds have been criticized for favoring certain corporations with political connections. Such arrangements blur the line between public health priorities and profit motives, fostering environments where corruption can thrive.
The CDC does not provide sufficient transparency around how funds are allocated, how advisory board members are selected, and what influences policy changes. When data behind major public health recommendations is not fully disclosed, and/or when advisory committees include members with financial ties to industry, the perception (and sometimes the reality) of corruption grows. This lack of transparency undermines trust and creates opportunities for conflicts of interest to shape health guidance.
Because the CDC is a federal agency, its policies are vulnerable to political pressure from administrations, legislators, and lobbyists. For instance, during crises such as COVID-19, reports emerged that political appointees attempted to edit scientific reports, delay data releases, or pressure the CDC to adopt messaging that aligned with political goals rather than evidence. This susceptibility to interference compromises scientific integrity and opens pathways for corruption by prioritizing political or financial interests over public health.
Much of the CDC’s work is carried out through grants to states, universities, and nonprofits. While this can expand capacity, it also creates opaque funding networks where billions of dollars are distributed with limited oversight. Contractors and grantees with insider connections may receive preferential treatment, while oversight mechanisms remain weak. Such conditions foster opportunities for mismanagement, waste, or outright fraud under the banner of public health.
Public health emergencies, from swine flu to COVID-19, often come with massive federal funding infusions. Rapid funding without strict accountability creates a “crisis exploitation” dynamic where contractors, lobbyists, and even agency insiders can leverage urgency to push through lucrative deals with minimal scrutiny. This cyclical pattern fosters a culture where corruption is not just possible but normalized during moments of crisis.
CDC structures and systems have to change, also.
I asked google the ways in which CDC structures foster corruption:
The CDC relies on "partnerships" with pharmaceutical companies and private contractors for research, distribution, and public health initiatives. This opens the door to regulatory capture, where policies are shaped more by corporate lobbying and financial interests than by the public good. For example, vaccine distribution contracts and pandemic response funds have been criticized for favoring certain corporations with political connections. Such arrangements blur the line between public health priorities and profit motives, fostering environments where corruption can thrive.
The CDC does not provide sufficient transparency around how funds are allocated, how advisory board members are selected, and what influences policy changes. When data behind major public health recommendations is not fully disclosed, and/or when advisory committees include members with financial ties to industry, the perception (and sometimes the reality) of corruption grows. This lack of transparency undermines trust and creates opportunities for conflicts of interest to shape health guidance.
Because the CDC is a federal agency, its policies are vulnerable to political pressure from administrations, legislators, and lobbyists. For instance, during crises such as COVID-19, reports emerged that political appointees attempted to edit scientific reports, delay data releases, or pressure the CDC to adopt messaging that aligned with political goals rather than evidence. This susceptibility to interference compromises scientific integrity and opens pathways for corruption by prioritizing political or financial interests over public health.
Much of the CDC’s work is carried out through grants to states, universities, and nonprofits. While this can expand capacity, it also creates opaque funding networks where billions of dollars are distributed with limited oversight. Contractors and grantees with insider connections may receive preferential treatment, while oversight mechanisms remain weak. Such conditions foster opportunities for mismanagement, waste, or outright fraud under the banner of public health.
Public health emergencies, from swine flu to COVID-19, often come with massive federal funding infusions. Rapid funding without strict accountability creates a “crisis exploitation” dynamic where contractors, lobbyists, and even agency insiders can leverage urgency to push through lucrative deals with minimal scrutiny. This cyclical pattern fosters a culture where corruption is not just possible but normalized during moments of crisis.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:19 pm to PJinAtl
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But, as I said in my first post, over the last 4 years the science has been infiltrated by the woke. Trans friendly language, no personal accountability. For example no guidance about stopping having unprotected anal sex with unknown male partners during the monkeypox outbreak. Changing the term from monkeypox to mpox to reduce stigma. Changing language from saying someone is obese to a person has obesity...much like going from a person being an alcoholic to they suffer from alcoholism.
Only 4 years? I think you can go back 20+ years and see what is termed "woke" in what the CDC spent our money on and its work product.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:24 pm to TDTOM
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Crazy4lsu has CDC tattooed on one butt cheek and AMA on the other.
I roped in another retard.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:33 pm to PJinAtl
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I worked as an IT contractor inside CDC for a dozen years. The agency is probably 85/15 liberal to conservative and that may be on the low side.
The director is mostly a figurehead. Yes they can set priorities but the long term employees in the office of the director and the heads of the individual centers, institutes, and offices are the real power in the agency. They have final say over what gets published, who is nominated to/appointed to advisory committees, etc.
During the Obama years and first Trump term it wasn't horrible. Yes you knew there was a liberal slant and you kept conservative opinions to yourself, but it felt like the science and the verbiage was consistent with what everyone would consider normal.
Starting in 2021 you started to see more of an alignment with critical race theory and anti-racism. You started seeing employees using pronouns in email signatures and on Zoom calls. This is when "pregnant persons" and Black vs. white started showing up on websites and in publications.
My sister in law worked for the CDC for man years...until she was laid off earlier this year.
What you posted tracks with my second hand experience through her as well. The only thing I would have changed had I been asked about it without reading your post first is that I had the impression that the uber-wokeness started well before 2021.
My SIL was one of the Original Sky Screamers of 2016. I just assumed she was a fish in water over there at the CDC all the way back then.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 3:05 pm to wackatimesthree
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The only thing I would have changed had I been asked about it without reading your post first is that I had the impression that the uber-wokeness started well before 2021.
This is the way I see it, and I think it tracks with David_DJS's comment as well. There were definitely woke attitudes across the agency prior to 2021. Some of the stories I could tell about things that came up in conversations...but anyway, yes there were very liberal folks and definitely a ton of skyscreamers in 2016.
There were also those who were trying to move the agency in a more liberal direction (for example wanting to be able to do research on gun violence and calling it a public health issue and potentially using the weight of CDC's reputation as a means for advocating for restrictions.
However, the top brass, be it Dr. Frieden or Dr. Redfield as director or Dr. Suchat as the long time deputy director (and interim/acting director in a few occasions) never let the crazy stuff come out into public. Everything that was published, in print or online, spoke about men and women. Yes there were references to LGBT but it was more about using the acronym in general when referring to that population as a whole.
It wasn't until Dr. Walensky and Dr. Cohen took over as director under Biden that you started to see terms like pregnant persons, assigned male/female at birth, etc. actually come into use in the websites or in print publications.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:05 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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PoliBoard Healthcare Professionals: Do you trust the CDC?
The CDC has been a political Rat's Nest for twenty years.
I still maintain their Feb 2020 CV19 test kit catastrophe was so basic and so awful, it may well have been deliberate. TTBOMK, no one was even reprimanded for that.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:10 pm to PJinAtl
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It wasn't until Dr. Walensky and Dr. Cohen took over as director under Biden that you started to see terms like pregnant persons, assigned male/female at birth, etc. actually come into use in the websites or in print publications.
Thanks for the insights.
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