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re: Philosophical Q: When 2 drunks have sex, why are rape charges filed …?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:37 pm to RCDfan1950
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:37 pm to RCDfan1950
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It may irrelevant in regard to the Law, but that they dropped this virtually unconscious girl off in the middle of a busy street in the middle of the night seems be a factor. There are drunk drivers in jail for negligent homicide. Drunk is no excuse when death claims a victim. Another knife in the back of race relations if those people walk.
This.
This is why reasonable people weighing the facts know that consensual sex is an act of mutual respect. When a girl asks you to take her home and then consents to sex, you don’t drop her off in the street to be alone at night in that condition. You take her home. You care enough to ensure her safety. Whether or not you have sex is another matter.
When you agree to take a girl home, have sex with her before getting her to her home and then kick her to the curb at night in an area known as hunting grounds for predators and at-risk obstacles for drunk drivers, that looks like rape to anyone but the NAACP.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:53 pm to AggieHank86
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It has been a while since I looked at the data, but don't most of the racial disparities tend to dissipate, once the data is normed for prior criminal record, other pending cases and similar factors?
Yes, in the same way that gender differences in salary go away when controlling for various variables that relate to workplace experience and availability. But that doesn’t stop feminists from relying solely on aggregated data.
Just as feminists prefer aggregated data, racists prefer it too when it comes to racial disparities in sentencing outcomes. So when some groups are confronted with the norming effect of criminal history data using the similarly situated people comparison, they rebut with the argument that there are no similarly situated people when comparing low income neighborhoods to higher income neighborhoods. One is more likely to have a heavier presence of police patrols than others. This leads to an increased probability for being arrested in low income neighborhoods for the same behavior committed but possibly not noticed or reported in higher income neighborhoods. They also argue that because of police strategies such as broken window policing, there is a difference in behaviors that cops respond to which leads to an increased probability for being arrested in low income neighborhoods for behavior that would not lead to arrest in higher income neighborhoods. This leads to an increased probability of being arrested for minor offenses which can inflate criminal histories that lead to sentencing disparities.
But more to the topic at hand. Do we not see a difference in how the courts treat men who have sex with underage girls vs women who have sex with underage boys, particularly if the adult female is blessed with beauty and a magnificent rack? Our inner pubescent male comes out and we say, “Hell yeah kid, good for you.”
Even among less attractive females who prey on young boys, grown men know the mantra of our youth - eager beats pretty. I haven’t seen the data, but I would wager a dozen eggs that women get much lighter sentences for sex crimes against men, even controlling for criminal history, and probably regardless of age of the victim.
I think the answer to your question is men know we can think with our dicks and sometimes our dicks think for us. Some of us are raised to be occasional gentlemen and we expect women to better regulate the distribution of sex because men have been conditioned to mindlessly pursue it. With an upbringing like this we tend to think of men as predators and women as prey. So as adults we punish the predators and rescue the prey…because we know what our impulses were back in the day.
Just as white males cannot talk about ninjas, all males need to appreciate the double standard with drunk sex. A drunk yes should be regarded as a no. Try again sober. If yes when sober, then I like your chances of drunk sex being consensual in future encounters.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:13 pm to AggieHank86
If I’m legitimately shitfaced, the ol schlong ain’t getting up to get busy. I’m betting the courts go by the same philosophy.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:58 pm to AggieHank86
Ask that dude the next time you wake with him up plowing your arse
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:48 pm to High Desert
quote:These laws predate anything that you would call "liberalism."
OP is disingenuous. He knows why.
Liberalism.
Stop being a modern partisan, and look at history.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:37 am to AggieHank86
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voluntarily
quote:Legally, these two things are incompatible.
non compos mentis
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Set aside “blackout” situations
quote:This would be a "blackout" situation.
non compos mentis
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 1:40 am
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