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Peachmint narrative building: can we revisit NYT's story re Russia's recent Burisma hack

Posted on 1/16/20 at 6:57 am
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14946 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 6:57 am
Cajun A had some posts about this the other day, which some of us may have missed due to LSU NC hangovers.

The timing of this story 2 days ago, together with the Lev Parnas "bombshell" hotel scribble and Schiff's document dump, may make a little clearer what the dims have been up during the Christmas break, and why Madame Whiskey Dentures was holding onto the articles.

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the transparency and timing of tonight's "bombshell" report from The New York Times of an 'alleged' hacking by 'allegedly' Russian hackers of Burisma - the Ukrainian energy firm that VP Biden's crack-smoking, energy-ignorant son was paid $50,000 per month as a board member - reeks so strongly of foundational narrative-building for something "embarrassing" that is coming, it is stunning just how dumb the deep state must think the American public really is. Actually, maybe not all that stunning.


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According to Area 1, the Silicon Valley security firm that detected the hacking, Russian hackers from a military intelligence unit known formerly as the G.R.U., and to private researchers by the alias “Fancy Bear,” used so-called phishing emails that appear designed to steal usernames and passwords, to gain access to Burisma's network.


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Oren Falkowitz, a co-founder of Area 1, and previously a hacker at the National Security Agency, proclaimed in the report that "the attacks were successful," even though it is unknown what the alleged hackers were attempting to discover.


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Additionally, and coming as no surprise to many, Mr. Falkowitz is a significant donor to Democrats; and even more intriguing, the company's CSO - Blacke Darche - also worked at the NSA and most notably, Crowdstrike.


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The Times, citing an American security official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence, claiming - without any proof - that the Russian attacks on Burisma appear to be running parallel to an effort by Russian spies in Ukraine to dig up information in the analog world that could embarrass the Bidens. The spies, the official said, are trying to penetrate Burisma and working sources in the Ukrainian government in search of emails, financial records and legal documents.


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So, what are the Democrats preparing for? Another round of embarrassing leaked emails - Wikigate 2.0? And this story is designed to plant the seed that anyone who releases any of the "hacked" emails - which may or may not expose crimes by the Bidens (or Pelosis) is a Russian agent and must be shunned, censored, and generally disavowed by any and all Western media.


And so we have come full circle back to muh Russia. Are the dims building up a preemptive defense of Biden's (and Pelosi's) profiteering in Ukraine with a makeover of the thoroughly debunked Trump-is-Putin's-puppet attack?

It would make sense given the recent "all-roads-lead-back-to-Russia/Putin" narrative being espoused by Pelosi, Schiff and Naddler.

While this time the dims are relying on familiar allies in the MSM and lefty techy Crowdstrike types, at least this time they won't have the full force of the FBI and the CIA to coordinate their frame job.

Zero Hedge

Original NYT Article




Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12350 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:01 am to
I can’t believe people would actually believe this. It makes the Russians, a barren country which is basically a gas station, look high and mighty.

Even if they did hack Burisma, why does the information they obtain from the entity lose significance and become less damaging?
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 7:02 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25299 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:03 am to
I think they are trying to preemptively discredit reports of Biden’s extreme and obvious corruption in Ukraine.

Maybe Democrats don’t care about corruption? They supported Hillary.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25299 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:06 am to
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Even if they did hack Burisma, why does the information they obtain from the entity lose significance and become less damaging?


After the wikileaks release in 2016, they worked very hard to paint the breach as a “Russian hack” to deflect from the content of those emails. The media played along and ultimately blamed Trump even though he had nothing to do with it.

Democrats blamed Russian hackers the day after the Wikileaks dump. No mention of the possibility of it being a leak.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14946 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:17 am to
dims 2012:



dims 2016:



Gotta hand it to dims, they are able convince their braindead masses that Putin is the ultimate boogeyman overnight.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:31 am to
Dem's are so uncreative. What made the Russian Hoax so obvious to anyway with a brain is it was too convenient. I suspected the Russian Hoax was BS long before it even became Russia Collusion, long before the election even. They came out and said you, you, you, and you are connected to Russia, in some cases people who were supposed to be talking to Russians as part of their official capacity got caught up in it. That's not how these things work.

Now after their historical and hysterical failure of the last 4 years, you're going to come with the same game plan and think people are dumb enough to believe it?

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According to Area 1, the Silicon Valley security firm that detected the hacking, Russian hackers from a military intelligence unit known formerly as the G.R.U., and to private researchers by the alias “Fancy Bear,” used so-called phishing emails that appear designed to steal usernames and passwords, to gain access to Burisma's network.


It's literally the same game plan with the same people
Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
5912 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:39 am to
Rudy already has all the goods. They’re simply laying the groundwork now to say he got it from the Russians
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:40 am to
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I can’t believe people would actually believe this. It makes the Russians, a barren country which is basically a gas station, look high and mighty.


Our intelligence agencies have been making Russia a helluva lot more relevant than they really are for over a decade now.

If Russia was so relevant, if I was an intelligence agency I would be spending more time to make them irrelevant and less time peddling these BS conspiracy theories to the American public that make my own intelligence agency look like a POS.

Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:45 am to
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Rudy already has all the goods. They’re simply laying the groundwork now to say he got it from the Russians



Yeah and that fabrication is going to be just as big of a fail. Rudy had his information months before the Dem's could even plan this conspiracy theory. That's the problem with being a liar, you have to lie to cover up your lies.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6564 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:06 am to
How do I separate real life from the movies?

I'm certainly not computer savvy....but I was always under the impression that great hackers cover their tracks and cannot be traced if they are good.....at the same time they can make it look like someone else did the hacking.

If the Russians are such "great" hackers.....how come the always get "caught"??
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