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Papadopoulos just said he thinks his surveillance started while he was working

Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:35 pm
Posted by StrangeBrew
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:35 pm
on the Ben Carson campaign before he joined the Trump train.

Maybe the curtain hider and cohorts were on the trail of all opponents of Hillary. Wonder if Bernie was under surveillance as well.

Story with Martha MacCallum. Will add link as soon as I locate.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94529 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:39 pm to
Wouldn’t be surprised.

The only perceived front runner last time around was Jeb and everyone else was left scrounging for staff and cash as a result.

That would make it easy for an adviser of questionable background to be on a campaign and be subject to surveillance.


They didn’t do that for Jeb because he was already owned lock stock and barrel.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5747 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:40 pm to
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on the Ben Carson campaign before he joined the Trump train. Maybe the curtain hider and cohorts were on the trail of all opponents of Hillary. Wonder if Bernie was under surveillance as well. Story with Martha MacCallum. Will add link as soon as I locate.


I cannot prove but I have no doubt that ALL political rivals of BHO were spied on. No doubt at all. That was the MO for 8+ years and Progressives are cool with it.

Karma and Justice is what is coming for them, I pray.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79575 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:41 pm to
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Maybe the curtain hider and cohorts were on the trail of all opponents of Hillary. Wonder if Bernie was under surveillance as well.


I’ve suspected this all along. They weren’t taking any chances.
Posted by the_watcher
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Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:44 pm to
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Papadopoulos just said he thinks his surveillance started while he was working
on the Ben Carson campaign before he joined the Trump train.

Horowitz confirmed this. He said both Page and Pappadopolous were spied on before and after they joined the Trump campaign. Before he joined the Trump campaign, Pappadopolous was part of Ben Carson’s campaign. Pretty straightforward
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62354 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:49 pm to
Yeah, the spy ring that morphed into the Trump spy ring started in 2014. This will be yuge......
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
2331 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:50 pm to
We know Sheryl Atkisson was spied on for writing a negative story about Michelle's lunch program. I mean, if they stoop to that level isn't it logical to assume they would spy in every conceivable fashion towards every perceived enemy? Supreme court judges, federal judges, all major campaigns, etc. It only makes sense that they would do this to ensure victory especially knowing the leadership at the FBI had no qualms about lying to the FISA court judges. If any FISA court judge got out of line, you think they wouldnt apply pressure there? If you think it stops with Obama, just look at the use of the intelligence community during the dubya years to ensure the war in Iraq was on as well.

These people have no morals regardless of which side of the aisle they are on.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:58 pm to
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Yeah, the spy ring that morphed into the Trump spy ring started in 2014.

It most likely started with Mike Flynn after he publicly and forcefully opposed the Iran deal
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45785 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:01 pm to
They were surveilling everyone of importance in both parties. Why do you think the Dems all walk the same walk, the puppet master holds all the strings
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79575 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:01 pm to
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I have no doubt that ALL political rivals of BHO were spied on. No doubt at all.


BHO made Nixon look like a choirboy. And he’ll never face any consequences.
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6655 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:01 pm to
we're going to find out ted cruz's campaign was spied on too

Book It
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:02 pm to
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BHO made Nixon look like a choirboy

True
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nd he’ll never face any consequences.

Sadly, also true.
Posted by TeddyKJB
Starkville,MS
Member since Oct 2017
1288 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Maybe the curtain hider and cohorts were on the trail of all opponents of Hillary. Wonder if Bernie was under surveillance as well.


Bank On It !

Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16851 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:06 pm to
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owards every perceived enemy? Supreme court judges


Wow, this really must have started early in the Obama years. Wasn't the ruling on obamacare in the summer of 2010?

Not one scandal, cleanest administration ever!
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8349 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:30 pm to
It’s always been murmured that Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Ben Carson’s campaigns were spied on. I’ve heard all of them were so it really isn’t a stretch.

Thanks Obama, liberals, that’s what your demigod did with the federal government, turned it against political foes. IRS, Investigative, Intel, what else?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35329 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:37 pm to
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Horowitz confirmed this. He said both Page and Pappadopolous were spied on before and after they joined the Trump campaign. Before he joined the Trump campaign, Pappadopolous was part of Ben Carson’s campaign. Pretty straightforward
The IG report said nothing like this. In fact it debunked the Mifsud conspiracy.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73400 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:40 pm to
No.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:45 pm to
So... the FBI knew to spy on him early on because they figured he would be on the Trump campaign also?
Posted by StrangeBrew
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Member since May 2009
18180 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:52 pm to
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So... the FBI knew to spy on him early on because they figured he would be on the Trump campaign also?


More likely they were spying on all the campaigns.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:08 pm to
That’s possible. What’s more likely is that this guy was on their radar for reasons not related to Carsons campaign
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