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Paid parental leave is a good thing if you think society should encourage working parents
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:19 pm
Is it an extra burden on companies and government?
Yes.
Is encouraging employed people to be parents a good thing?
Absolutely.
Do we have an impending population crisis where we don’t have enough babies?
Yes.
Should we do everything in our power to encourage middle and working class millennials and Zoomers to have kids?
Yes.
You can hate government overreach and still acknowledge some programs are a good thing for our nation and society, even if they cost money.
Yes.
Is encouraging employed people to be parents a good thing?
Absolutely.
Do we have an impending population crisis where we don’t have enough babies?
Yes.
Should we do everything in our power to encourage middle and working class millennials and Zoomers to have kids?
Yes.
You can hate government overreach and still acknowledge some programs are a good thing for our nation and society, even if they cost money.
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Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:20 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
society should encourage working parents
Why the frick would we do that?
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:32 pm to cokebottleag
Yawn
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:33 pm to cokebottleag
Lol. Wrong on every single point.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:37 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
You can hate government overreach and still acknowledge some programs are a good thing for our nation and society, even if they cost money.
If they're actually good I could acknowledge it. How does this encourage them to become good parents? It's a temp bandaid; all you did was delay their permanent child care situation by three months. Oh, and asked the rest of us to pay for it.
This is a bullshite, horrible program and I hope the senate kills it with fire.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:39 pm to cokebottleag
You have no grips on economics
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:40 pm to cokebottleag
I have no issue with the fed doing it with their employees. Forcing it on private companies they have zero right or authority to do.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:41 pm to AU66
quote:
I have no issue with the fed doing it with their employees. Forcing it on private companies they have zero right or authority to do.
Who do you think pays for the fed to do this?
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:43 pm to AU66
quote:
I have no issue with the fed doing it with their employees.
Um what? Federal employees are paid via your tax dollars.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:45 pm to Flats
quote:
Who do you think pays for the fed to do this
Let me rephrase, i dont like it but half the govt workforce is probably already a complete waste of money, just dont want it forced on private companies that dont have blank checks to write.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:47 pm to DeusVultMachina
Wow, I never thought of it that way before. Usually I find this issue is so complex with competing perspectives, but that way you argue it just makes things so clear! Thanks for the informative, persuasive opinions. You’ve convinced me!
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:48 pm to AU66
quote:
i dont like it but but half the govt workforce is probably already a complete waste of money,
Well the answer here is obvious: eliminate those positions. Trim the fat.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:49 pm to AU66
quote:
Let me rephrase, i dont like it but but half the govt workforce is probably already a complete waste of money, just dont want it forced on private companies that dont have blank checks to write.
I agree with you that forcing it on private companies is an order of magnitude worse than doing it for federal employees, but it's still a horrible idea. Someone, or worse, a couple, works for the federal government for 5 years, they have 3 kids, they each get a total of 9 months off. 18 months of getting paid to do nothing. People will take jobs just to breed, then move on to something else.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:50 pm to funnystuff
cool, your disagreement is well articulated as well.
Irony.
Irony.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:50 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:
Why the frick would we do that?
It already does and that genie isn't going back in the bottle...so if reproduction of children is desired we need as a society encourage employers to provide paid leave which will make giving birth so burdensome on working families? Maybe a tax incentive v. a government law imposing this on companies?
I don't think the OP is really off base by recognizing competing societal pressures.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:52 pm to cokebottleag
Or maybe, just maybe, the government take less in taxes. Thus allowing the working families to keep more of their money...
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:56 pm to cokebottleag
Not my favorite thing, but I guess if you're already shitting away my money this so somehow better than more welfare
Posted on 12/7/19 at 7:59 pm to Flats
quote:It’s not being paid to do nothing. It’s being paid to help develop a young american’s brain at a time when it is the most pliable.
18 months of getting paid to do nothing
quote:Please cite a single study finding this conclusion. Currently there are only 3 non-island countries in the world that do not require some sort of parental leave policy by law: Suriname, Papa New Guinea, and the United States. Please cite any study from any other nation which finds that people systematically move jobs specifically for the purpose of exploiting paid leave policies.
People will take jobs just to breed, then move on to something else.
These policies exist across the globe, so if your concern is a valid one, it is a certainty that it will have been observed in some other country.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:05 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:10 pm to cokebottleag
I think we’d be better off if one parent were able to stay at home, focusing on the development of their kids.
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