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re: Paddock bought 33 guns since October 2016
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:28 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:28 pm to buckeye_vol
I just thought of a bit of good gun policy through this: you're immediately flagged by the FBI for buying more than 3 guns in a year. It doesn't mean you're on a terror watch list or you can't buy more, but you automatically get a call from the FBI to where you have to carefully explain why you're buying 30 fricking guns.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:30 pm to OMLandshark
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but you automatically get a call from the FBI to where you have to carefully explain why you're buying 30 fricking guns.
Someone buys 2 guns and kills just as many. Your logic is lacking. I bet the majority of guns in Paddocks room he never even fired
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:31 pm to texag7
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He had no prior run ins with the law. They pay him a visit, say nice guns and leave?
Get some clinical psychologist to interview him perhaps. Unless you own a mercenary company, what the frick are you doing buying 33 guns in a single year?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:32 pm to buckeye_vol
I win a lottery and I'll buy 33 guns in a month. Some of you that fixate on things like this are so clueless...
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:32 pm to OMLandshark
Um a collector or firearms enthusiast? Do you know you can only use one at a time, not one for each finger, right?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:34 pm to buckeye_vol
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Paddock bought 33 of 47 guns found in his hotel and homes since October 2016, according to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
Still waiting on Jonestown pics besides just empty Dixie cups after a concert.
The field would be littered with dead bodies. 52? And we would see all the pics just like any real massacre in history.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:34 pm to texag7
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Someone buys 2 guns and kills just as many. Your logic is lacking. I bet the majority of guns in Paddocks room he never even fired
But stockpiling in a single year I can't imagine they have good intentions. It's one thing to buy 4 guns for your family to go hunting, the FBI interviews you and your family, and you're done. It's all good.
But a man with a foreigner living with him getting 33 of them in a year? That should set up red flags all over the place. It may not work for the Orlando massacre, but it could have stopped this.
In the very least this proves he was planning this attack for at least a year.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:35 pm to dpd901
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I didn't say they should bust his door down with a ram and chuck some flash bangs. Perhaps they could say "we've been made aware that you've completed an inordinate number of firearm background checks in a relatively short period of time. We were hoping to ask you a few questions about these transactions" ... you know... what police and Feds do all the time when they are alerted to "suspicious" activity. I'm not seeing how that's a violation of the 4th amendment.
Step 1: Say "Go frick yourself"
Step 2: Close the door.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:36 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Here you go
Still waiting on Jonestown pics
quote:Why? Do you think they would just unnecessarily leave them out there to give them some sun or something?
The field would be littered with dead bodies. 52?
quote:Yes. Because previous massacres, which often occured in times when the resources didn't exist to move bodies effectively in mass, in place that where resources were even more limited, and committed by people who wanted to the massacres displayed are great comparisons to use as evidence that this massacre was fake.
And we would see all the pics just like any real massacre in history.
It can't be that in the 21st century, in the most advanced society to ever exist, it is far easier to move the bodies out of the public's view. And it can't be that a city that's economy is disproportionately dependent on tourism would have extra incentive to clear it up since pictures like the one you posted would not be a good advertisement for tourism.
But hey, 900+ people, the vast majority of a REMOTE settlement in the middle of the rainforest of a poor country, committed mass suicide, and we have photos of their unmoved, dead bodies. That's definitely a super similar event to use.
Honestly, of all the dumb things people use as evidence of a conspiracy theory, this has got to be one of, if not the absolute dumbest.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:36 pm to texag7
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Um a collector or firearms enthusiast? Do you know you can only use one at a time, not one for each finger, right?
33 in one year. That is one hell of an enthusiast. Anyone who does that should go through hours of intense questioning.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:36 pm to OMLandshark
I don't need three cars, but I have that too. Who are you to decide what someone else needs with their money?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:38 pm to dpd901
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I didn't say they should bust his door down with a ram and chuck some flash bangs. Perhaps they could say "we've been made aware that you've completed an inordinate number of firearm background checks in a relatively short period of time. We were hoping to ask you a few questions about these transactions" ... you know... what police and Feds do all the time when they are alerted to "suspicious" activity. I'm not seeing how that's a violation of the 4th amendment.
And what exactly would the purpose of this be? burn through tax dollars and intimidating someone into letting you into their home without a warrant or probable cause?
this is going to come off like this: "hey, tell me your private business or i'll make your life hell. I'm watching you, even though you haven't done anything wrong"
That's the kind of shite that should never be happening.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:39 pm to Five0
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Step 1: Say "Go frick yourself"
Step 2: Close the door.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:41 pm to Aristo
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Who are you to decide what someone else needs with their money?
I'm not saying ban it, I'm saying flags should be raised where the FBI interviews people who do it. You collecting 1960s cars aren't things a mass murderer does shortly prior to going on a killing spree.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:41 pm to OMLandshark
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But stockpiling in a single year I can't imagine they have good intentions.
I know lots and lots of people who have stockpiled many many guns in a single year. They are good people.
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the FBI interviews you and your family, and you're done. It's all good.
Or they mind their own fricking business, which is what they should be doing. Owning a gun, or even many guns isn't grounds for giving interviews to the GD feds. It shouldn't be grounds for expending government resources either. Find evidence of a crime, or GTFO
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:41 pm to OMLandshark
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Anyone who does that should go through hours of intense questioning.
Why?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:42 pm to buckeye_vol
You can buy 5, 10 long guns a day and it is not reported to authorities. 4473s are filed away by the business that sold them. No access to them unless firearm is stolen and purchaser reports to local Police. Now, you purchase 2 or more Handguns in a week, then a 3310 is sent to local Police and they send upline to ATF. Pistols and SBRs open pandoras box!
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:42 pm to Five0
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Step 1: Say "Go frick yourself"
Step 2: Close the door.
Step 3: I now have probable cause
Step 4: call Judge, get warrant because person who bought 33 guns in a year responded with hostility to an inquiry
Step 5: bust down door, chuck flash bangs
Step 6: No mass shooting
Those of you defending buying 33 firearms in a year as normative behavior for a non-dealer/collector are just being obtuse, and the facts of this case clearly prove you wrong.
In fact, id bet there are very few citizens who have ever bought that many in a year. And if it's that important to you to buy 33 in a year and you have no criminal intent, then you should have no objection to being interviewed about it.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:42 pm to OMLandshark
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That is one hell of an enthusiast. Anyone who does that should go through hours of intense questioning.
There are auctions all across the South where people buy crates of Mosins at a time and other military surplus guns and ammo. Crates.
33 in 1 year probably isn't even close to being on the ATF's radar.
I've bought 10 in one year before along with a suppressor.
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