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Over 1000 people in Louisiana jails for over 4 years without trial

Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:14 pm
Article says 1,300 in the title but later says close to 1,200 (journalists are incompetent, go figure)

LINK

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"I think the number is actually higher," Michael Ranatza, executive director, said after a budget hearing before state lawmakers in the House Appropriations Committee on Monday (April 9).

Makes you wonder...why don't know the real number? We aren't talking about some serious accounting problem here.

quote:

Last month, the sheriffs' association tallied up how many people were sitting in jails without going to trial or receiving a sentence, Ranatza said. The problem is so pervasive that it is eating into sheriffs' budgets to house the accused for so long, he said.

"I want you to understand that there are people in the state of Louisiana who have waited over five years to be tried in criminal court," Ranatza told the committee. "There's a higher number at the four-year level, about almost 1,200."


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The Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees the accused the right to a speedy trial. A defendant can file a motion for a speedy trial, which in Louisiana would have to commence within 120 days for someone held in custody charged with a felony -- or 30 days for a misdemeanor -- unless a judge determines a delay is justified.



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The Louisiana ACLU could not comment on the reasons why someone would have had to wait for a trial for more than four years without knowing more about the specifics of the cases. But Hamilton said the state's public defender funding crisis and regulations around bail, which make it harder for people who are poor to await trial out of prison, could be factors.



Pretty telling how bad the criminal justice system fricks the poor. This is a nationwide issue but in Louisiana it seems to be at absurd 3rd world levels.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29024 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:16 pm to
Perhaps lawyers should stop asking for extensions and work a little more.


Or...perhaps the poors should stop breaking the law.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

Or...perhaps the poors should stop breaking the law.



You can be put in jail wrongfully, you know.

I assume you distrust our government in a great many ways, why would you trust them to run a fair and efficient criminal system?
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:18 pm to
Shithole
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

Perhaps lawyers should stop asking for extensions and work a little more.



Or perhaps Louisiana doesn't have enough public defenders?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22316 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:21 pm to
Old Honest Abe got away with it. The Constitution Butcher.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421296 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Perhaps lawyers should stop asking for extensions and work a little more.

PDO can only do so much and try so many cases
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:26 pm to
This is a very real problem across the entire country. I have no idea why it hasn’t been seriously challenged and found unconstitutional. As much as I hate the idea, of a misdemeanor had been tried within 3 months it needs to be dismissed. Not sure about a felony but there should be no long periods of incarceration without a trial. Try them or release them.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35811 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:26 pm to
Good questions I think from a quick glance.

What's your plan to make a difference on this?

No good people on this website want anyone abused by the system. So define what your plan is and see if we can help.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35811 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

The Louisiana ACLU could not comment on the reasons why someone would have had to wait for a trial for more than four years without knowing more about the specifics of the cases. But Hamilton said the state's public defender funding crisis and regulations around bail, which make it harder for people who are poor to await trial out of prison, could be factors


in other words, the Louisiana ACLU wants to let it simmer in the pan for awhile and see if they can score political points on it later.

The elitist left does not care about the poor and underpriviledged. This quote from the Louisiana ACLU proves it, yet again.

Poor, "minority", etc... all pawns.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:34 pm to
To me this looks like a violation of the 5th, 6th, 8th, and 14th amendments.

How has this not gone to SCOTUS or to state supreme courts - or has it?

ETA- it's time for the ACLU to disappear and let's get a real civil liberties organization going. The ACLU is a political organization.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 7:37 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48009 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

https://law.justia.com/codes/louisiana/2011/ccrp/ccrp701/


All they have to do is file for a speedy trial and it must happen in 120 days or the charges are dismissed.

ETA: Let me try again.

CCRP 701
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 7:49 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

I assume you distrust our government in a great many ways, why would you trust them to run a fair and efficient criminal system?
Seems like there are a lot of big government-hating, constitutional-loving tough guys--stocking up on weapons for some impending war with some unknowing enemy.

Yet, whenever there is the slightest se perceived threat to their safety, they run and hide behind and beg for a larger police state, suddenly care little about the 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 14th amendments (maybe more) and when there is a real enemy to confront, they're all about sending others to confront it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

All they have to do is file for a speedy trial and it must happen in 120 days or the charges are dismissed.
quote:

Page not found
I think we may have found their problem.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48009 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:46 pm to
To be fair. You can like the 10th and the 4th 5th 6th 8th and 14th too.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48009 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

I think we may have found their problem


My technical inabilities aside. Ccrp 701

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Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:50 pm to
1000 people suckin' on the taxpayers teat for 4 years??...4 frickin' years???
Time to get some payback work out of them.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:51 pm to
quote:



Or...perhaps the poors should stop breaking the law.



I didn't know everyone that was arrested and stood trial was found guilty. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

I didn't know everyone that was arrested and stood trial was found guilty.

If they weren't guilty what are they doing in jail?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26637 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:01 pm to
People have sued for sex changes, hormones, air conditioning and many other things while in prison.

How has this bullshite not been thrown out. I can think of no situation where this would be kosher.
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