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Over 1000 people in Louisiana jails for over 4 years without trial
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:14 pm
Article says 1,300 in the title but later says close to 1,200 (journalists are incompetent, go figure)
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Makes you wonder...why don't know the real number? We aren't talking about some serious accounting problem here.
Pretty telling how bad the criminal justice system fricks the poor. This is a nationwide issue but in Louisiana it seems to be at absurd 3rd world levels.
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"I think the number is actually higher," Michael Ranatza, executive director, said after a budget hearing before state lawmakers in the House Appropriations Committee on Monday (April 9).
Makes you wonder...why don't know the real number? We aren't talking about some serious accounting problem here.
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Last month, the sheriffs' association tallied up how many people were sitting in jails without going to trial or receiving a sentence, Ranatza said. The problem is so pervasive that it is eating into sheriffs' budgets to house the accused for so long, he said.
"I want you to understand that there are people in the state of Louisiana who have waited over five years to be tried in criminal court," Ranatza told the committee. "There's a higher number at the four-year level, about almost 1,200."
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The Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees the accused the right to a speedy trial. A defendant can file a motion for a speedy trial, which in Louisiana would have to commence within 120 days for someone held in custody charged with a felony -- or 30 days for a misdemeanor -- unless a judge determines a delay is justified.
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The Louisiana ACLU could not comment on the reasons why someone would have had to wait for a trial for more than four years without knowing more about the specifics of the cases. But Hamilton said the state's public defender funding crisis and regulations around bail, which make it harder for people who are poor to await trial out of prison, could be factors.
Pretty telling how bad the criminal justice system fricks the poor. This is a nationwide issue but in Louisiana it seems to be at absurd 3rd world levels.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:16 pm to Powerman
Perhaps lawyers should stop asking for extensions and work a little more.
Or...perhaps the poors should stop breaking the law.
Or...perhaps the poors should stop breaking the law.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:17 pm to navy
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Or...perhaps the poors should stop breaking the law.
You can be put in jail wrongfully, you know.
I assume you distrust our government in a great many ways, why would you trust them to run a fair and efficient criminal system?
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:21 pm to navy
quote:
Perhaps lawyers should stop asking for extensions and work a little more.
Or perhaps Louisiana doesn't have enough public defenders?
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:21 pm to Powerman
Old Honest Abe got away with it. The Constitution Butcher.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:25 pm to navy
quote:
Perhaps lawyers should stop asking for extensions and work a little more.
PDO can only do so much and try so many cases
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:26 pm to Powerman
This is a very real problem across the entire country. I have no idea why it hasn’t been seriously challenged and found unconstitutional. As much as I hate the idea, of a misdemeanor had been tried within 3 months it needs to be dismissed. Not sure about a felony but there should be no long periods of incarceration without a trial. Try them or release them.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:26 pm to Powerman
Good questions I think from a quick glance.
What's your plan to make a difference on this?
No good people on this website want anyone abused by the system. So define what your plan is and see if we can help.
What's your plan to make a difference on this?
No good people on this website want anyone abused by the system. So define what your plan is and see if we can help.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:30 pm to Powerman
quote:
The Louisiana ACLU could not comment on the reasons why someone would have had to wait for a trial for more than four years without knowing more about the specifics of the cases. But Hamilton said the state's public defender funding crisis and regulations around bail, which make it harder for people who are poor to await trial out of prison, could be factors
in other words, the Louisiana ACLU wants to let it simmer in the pan for awhile and see if they can score political points on it later.
The elitist left does not care about the poor and underpriviledged. This quote from the Louisiana ACLU proves it, yet again.
Poor, "minority", etc... all pawns.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:34 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
To me this looks like a violation of the 5th, 6th, 8th, and 14th amendments.
How has this not gone to SCOTUS or to state supreme courts - or has it?
ETA- it's time for the ACLU to disappear and let's get a real civil liberties organization going. The ACLU is a political organization.
How has this not gone to SCOTUS or to state supreme courts - or has it?
ETA- it's time for the ACLU to disappear and let's get a real civil liberties organization going. The ACLU is a political organization.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:43 pm to HempHead
quote:Seems like there are a lot of big government-hating, constitutional-loving tough guys--stocking up on weapons for some impending war with some unknowing enemy.
I assume you distrust our government in a great many ways, why would you trust them to run a fair and efficient criminal system?
Yet, whenever there is the slightest se perceived threat to their safety, they run and hide behind and beg for a larger police state, suddenly care little about the 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 14th amendments (maybe more) and when there is a real enemy to confront, they're all about sending others to confront it.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:45 pm to BBONDS25
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All they have to do is file for a speedy trial and it must happen in 120 days or the charges are dismissed.
quote:I think we may have found their problem.
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:46 pm to buckeye_vol
To be fair. You can like the 10th and the 4th 5th 6th 8th and 14th too.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:47 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:50 pm to buckeye_vol
1000 people suckin' on the taxpayers teat for 4 years??...4 frickin' years???
Time to get some payback work out of them.
Time to get some payback work out of them.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:51 pm to navy
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Or...perhaps the poors should stop breaking the law.
I didn't know everyone that was arrested and stood trial was found guilty. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:57 pm to AUsteriskPride
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I didn't know everyone that was arrested and stood trial was found guilty.
If they weren't guilty what are they doing in jail?
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:01 pm to Powerman
People have sued for sex changes, hormones, air conditioning and many other things while in prison.
How has this bullshite not been thrown out. I can think of no situation where this would be kosher.
How has this bullshite not been thrown out. I can think of no situation where this would be kosher.
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