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Posted on 10/15/17 at 11:08 am to Dale51
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Actually, God created life and gave man the free will to choose good or evil. They create that.
well, god creates horrific terminal diseases and gives them to little kids all the time. if a pedophile gave a little kid HIV we'd call him evil.
its all part of the plan though
Posted on 10/15/17 at 11:09 am to roadGator
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You'll be cheering for more mosques either way so it matters not.
muslims are even more dogmatic than the moron evangelists you see running around. i'd prefer having less of all religious frick tards tbh. no mosques, no churches, no temples.. sounds like a nice place to live.
it's easily the best tool to control people that was ever created
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 11:11 am
Posted on 10/15/17 at 11:11 am to bmy
You love Islam. Embrace it.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 11:20 am to Dale51
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Actually, God created life and gave man the free will to choose good or evil. They create that.
How convenient.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 11:26 am to bmy
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christianity is dead bro. there are less true believers now than at any other point in our countries history.. and that trend will continue :cheeers:
give it another 20 years for the old people to die off and even seeing a church will be rare
I would spend time to respond to this, but then I remembered you're one of the board's morons so I won't bother except say you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 11:33 am to Parmen
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I would spend time to respond to this,
But you did spend time...
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:25 pm to bmy
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well, god creates horrific terminal diseases and gives them to little kids all the time.
Thats life on Earth. What do you expect..Heaven?
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:27 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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How convenient.
Thats kinda dumb. What do you not accept..that people are free to make their own decisions? Who makes your decisions for you? Are they all good, and if not do you blame others?
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:32 pm to Dale51
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Thats kinda dumb.
No it isn't. It's certainly convenient that your god is omnipotent and omnipresent...until he isn't.
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What do you not accept..that people are free to make their own decisions? Who makes your decisions for you? Are they all good, and if not do you blame others?
"Accept" has nothing to do with it. We certainly make our own decisions. The difference between us is that I don't need to explain away my reasons or defend the actions of a mythical being.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:38 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No it isn't. It's certainly convenient that your god is omnipotent and omnipresent...until he isn't.
Wait, are you saying he's not responsible for the 20% of recognized pregnancies that end in miscarriage, or the 50% of unrecognized ones that end in spontaneous abortion?
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:41 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
I think it's ridiculous to associate a Godhead with human agency and purpose, but that's just me. Those who doubt the existence of a deity due to human suffering are just a little too anthropocentric, IMO.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:42 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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Wait, are you saying he's not responsible for the 20% of recognized pregnancies that end in miscarriage, or the 50% of unrecognized ones that end in spontaneous abortion?
These questions are nonsensical in response to my post.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:42 pm to HempHead
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Those who doubt the existence of a deity due to human suffering are just a little too anthropocentric, IMO.
Only if done based on that alone...
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:43 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
There are plenty of reasonable things to cause doubt, I just don't think that's one of them. It's a very lazy dismissal.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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These questions are nonsensical in response to my post.
Sorry, I thought I was posting in Parmen's other thread, "Life begins at conception."
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:46 pm to HempHead
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There are plenty of reasonable things to cause doubt, I just don't think that's one of them. It's a very lazy dismissal.
It's certainly something that can, and should be considered.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:50 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
At least in terms of Christian theology (and, to my knowledge, Buddhist as well), human suffering is very explainable, and does not contradict other understandings. Personally, my biggest doubts are from the scale of the universe and other likely intelligent species, but that only negates humanity's role, not the existence of something extra-universal.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:54 pm to HempHead
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At least in terms of Christian theology (and, to my knowledge, Buddhist as well), human suffering is very explainable, and does not contradict other understandings.
It doesn't need to be a contradiction. There are plenty of contradictions available elsewhere in Christianity.
I'm speaking to the widespread interpretations most have of their god. Those don't reconcile with the reality of a fundamental view of Christianity. The hypocrisy is easy to point out, and it should be. Often.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:57 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No it isn't. It's certainly convenient that your god is omnipotent and omnipresent...until he isn't.
That lacks any kind of insight and context. Being omnipotent and omnipresent does not equal omni-controlling. Free will. Thats the whole point and responsibility.
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