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Our political differences are unreconcilable

Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:11 am
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:11 am
An analogy I heard regarding when regular politics cease to work:

Imagine two people in a car driving across town the the airport. Both parties agree they want to go to the airport, but strongly disagree about the best route to take. This is an example of normal, functional politics. They are going to squabble about every turn and possible road they take, but ultimately since they both want to go to the same destination, the car can effectively make progress towards the common goal.

Now imagine a different scenario. Two people are in a car, one of them wants to drive to the airport and the other wants to drive to the bus station on the opposite side of town. The two parties are no longer arguing about the best way to achieve a common goal, they have fundamentally different goals that are contrary to each other. This is an inherently dysfunctional situation that cannot last very long.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:14 am to
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Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:15 am to
Not true. Were not killing each other we just like to complain. When shite really goes down we all help each other.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10177 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:16 am to
Or that’s how the media, including social media, wants you to view the state of our union.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:17 am to
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:17 am to
Solid analogy.
Except we aren’t even bickering over the airport vs the bus station; we’re warring over going to Jupiter vs some exoplanet light years away.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:17 am to
Politically, there is no reconciliation. Pandora’s box has been opened. Just because most Americans are fat and ignorant doesn’t mean there is not trouble ahead.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:20 am to
quote:

When shite really goes down we all help each other.




Yeah, tell yourself that shite all day
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10120 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:21 am to
agreed.....unfortunately

if the dems had their way the old “the land of the free and the home of the brave” would be changed to "the land of the free shite because of the white slave".

eta: and anyone who opposes this is a RACIST!!!
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 11:28 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421355 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:26 am to
quote:

if the dems had their way the old “the land of the free and the home of the brave” would be changed to "the land of the free shite because of the white slave".

that's kind of an astute summary

when the left is openly promoting the literal attacking of western culture and the basics of our country, you can say they've left any pretense of "governing" behind. they want change and strict adherence as well, so it's difficult for even their side to keep up with the flanks.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48262 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:30 am to
I agree that they are irreconcilable and that Secession should be explored and considered as a possible future option. IMHO, the USA is on the path to becoming a failed nation-state. If it really is going to be a failed nation-state, Leftism will be the cause.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41643 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:32 am to
It all comes down to worldviews. We use worldviews to interpret reality and when our worldviews are so different, we can't even agree on the same definitions of words, much less make progress towards the same goal.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:35 am to
Bamarep has sadly been saying all along this won't end peacefully.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Politically, there is no reconciliation. Pandora’s box has been opened. Just because most Americans are fat and ignorant doesn’t mean there is not trouble ahead.


If you're not making friends now, for both you and your kids down the line, you're probably headed for trouble.

Personally, I'm woefully behind. I have lots of acquaintances, but not enough friends. It's my fault... life and business left me little time to nurture relationships.

You felt it during Obama years, but thought, "hey, we're divided but we'll come together. I can ride this dude out, other side will ride it out too...".

Fortunately (or unfortunately), the last 2-3 years have opened my eyes so I can begin to prepare before it's too late.

The people are divided, the government is corrupted at a national level where the IRS targets people and a President was set up and attempted to be taken out. That's unbelievable.

The thing is, it takes hundreds/thousands of people complicit to make these things happen. Who would have thought that? But it's happened.

How do you pull back from that? You don't. One side has to win and one has to lose.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41059 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:40 am to
Agreed. What amazes me are people that can't seem to look at anything objectively. If an R or a D says something, it is either true or false. Look at these stupid party line votes in Congress as an example.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:41 am to
Society is about five missed meals from absolute chaos. Don’t let Netflix and iPhones fool you.
Posted by CC
Western NY
Member since Feb 2004
14863 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 11:52 am to
All that is left for the two people to do is fight over the keys while the bus leaves the station and the plane takes off.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112406 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:08 pm to
"A compromise between food and poison is death."
...Ayn Rand
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:13 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 2:25 am
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