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re: O'Reilly declares Biden
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:35 pm to Godfather1
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:35 pm to Godfather1
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It absolutely stymies me that historians always seem to give James Buchanan a pass on this.
Well, we can at least confidently say that Joe Biden hasn't allowed a Civil War to start under his watch..... yet.
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:45 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:She and Biden have something in common.
Doris Kearns Goodwin
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:47 pm to OMLandshark
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We still haven’t recovered from Wilson or LBJ.
And never will.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:19 pm to Diamondawg
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What Hoover do that was so bad?
Not one thing in particular. He was just very naive and did not handle the great depression well. He was so unpopular that it helped swing the country from Republican to Democrat for a long time.
Democrats were also helped by the fact that FDR started things like social security, etc under his watch and started getting the poorest of the nation dependent on the government teat. If not for WW2 breaking out and causing a major ramping up of industrial production, FDR would have been remembered in a similar light to Hoover.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:31 pm to Complete Linebacking
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I’ve never understood how LBJ doesn’t get honorable mention here. Great society bullshite and escalating the Vietnam conflict.
You are just saying that because you hate his values. Similarly the left would say Reagan is the worst, but that’s not what we mean. Carter and Biden are remarkably ineffective. Reagan and LBJ were extremely effective.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:41 pm to Penrod
quote:at destroying the nuclear family.
LBJ was extremely effective.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:44 pm to upgrayedd
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People still listen to that neocon shill?
You may not like O'Reilly but when it comes to politics, he's pretty much on the $ 95% of the time with his analysis.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:47 pm to Diamondawg
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What Hoover do that was so bad?
Hoover gets a lot of flack for being the President at the beginning of the Great Depression. He was the one in charge when shitte hit the fan and people started setting up shanty towns. He was criticized often for his inaction (despite him being FAR more proactive than history gives him credit for), and then there's the whole Bonus Army fiasco.
I think your bottom tier presidents (in no particular order) are easily Hoover, Buchanan, Taft, Wilson, both Johnsons, Carter, Biden, Adams (Alien & Sedition Act), Ford, Pierce, Obama, W Bush, Grant, and Lincoln.
Your upper tier presidents are probably Coolidge, Washington, Monroe, Madison, Jefferson, Polk, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Trump, and Reagan
Mid tier would be Jackson (trail of tiers balances out destroying the national bank and paying off the national debt), McKinley, FDR, Bush Sr, Nixon, JFK, and Truman
Irrelevant tier would be: Harding, Cleveland, both Harrisons, Arthur, Fillmore, Garfield, Van Buren, Taylor, Tyler, and Hayes.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:03 pm to bluedragon
Yeah, but the woke motherfrickers in charge of writing the history books, will portray Biden as the best potus ever.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:46 pm to upgrayedd
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People still listen to that neocon shill?
No shite.... He is about as conservative as Romney!... Fact!!!!
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:16 pm to Jake88
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Doris Kearns Goodwin
She and Biden have something in common.
They're old and senile? I read DKG's book about LBJ when I was in college and truly thought it was satire. NO sane person could fawn over that old reprobate and be serious.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:20 pm to bluedragon
Jeez, Hoover, Johnson, FDR etc. all great choices.
But for crying out loud, the clear winner is OBAMA
But for crying out loud, the clear winner is OBAMA
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:57 pm to bluedragon
FDR was horrible. He grew the federal government exponentially while crapping on the Constitution. His economic policies prolonged the Depression. He sent thousands of Americans to die in Europe in the name of freedom only to give half of the continent to Stalin whom he admired.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 6:02 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
Not so for the book A Texan Looks at Lyndon by J. Evetts Haley.
The only one who had the courage to challenge LBJ's presidency.
It chronicles his earliest days in politics and how those - according to Haley - who were in front of him and impediments to his career aspirations, invariably "experienced set backs."
It was published in '64 so Kennedy was already conveniently out of the way.
He's always been a curious study in "illegitimacy."
The only one who had the courage to challenge LBJ's presidency.
It chronicles his earliest days in politics and how those - according to Haley - who were in front of him and impediments to his career aspirations, invariably "experienced set backs."
It was published in '64 so Kennedy was already conveniently out of the way.
He's always been a curious study in "illegitimacy."
Posted on 1/14/22 at 6:25 pm to HubbaBubba
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This fricking thing sucks
The mashup with him & Christian Bale is still one of my favorite all time mashes. Another funny one if Howard Dean meets Outkast
Posted on 1/14/22 at 6:28 pm to Godfather1
Harding was a darn good president.
Bottom five for me is Lincoln, FDR, Wilson, LBJ, and Nixon.
Bottom five for me is Lincoln, FDR, Wilson, LBJ, and Nixon.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 6:28 pm to bluedragon
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He will have a LIBERAL Presidential Historian on his blog Monday. The previous number one was Hoover.....
Then the liberal historian probably created the prior listing, because Jimmy Carter did his best to turn the US into current day Venezuela.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 6:31 pm to jackamo3300
Caro is the preeminent LBJ historian. He stole at least one election in his early years.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 6:33 pm to TheHarahanian
How so? Truman wanted to nationalize industries.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 6:36 pm to kingbob
Grover Cleveland is the best. Anti imperialism and pro free market.
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