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Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:35 pm to Lightning
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I think we’re saying the same thing, but I don’t know how the FBI posting this does much to cover their asses. It looks more like they got outsmarted by a 13 year old kid, since apparently nothing was done to stop what turned out to be a real threat.
Because of laws and shite, minors, homey. I don't know what way you are trying to spin this.
The school system should have expelled his arse, IF THE fbi story is true.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:36 pm to Seldom Seen
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Once again it looks like the shooter was on their radar
I think the reality is everyone is on their radar. IOW. We’re all being surveilled. Just not very well.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:36 pm to TBoy
I don’t know. Maybe a mental hospital and some help? But what if the dad was normal and not crazy. Are we always responsible when our kids make a wrong choice? I don’t know. What makes a 14 year old do this?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:37 pm to Seldom Seen
We are all on their radar
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:38 pm to Dandy Lion
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Are you twelve?
Does your pussy hurt?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:59 pm to Seldom Seen
You must to a verified idiot to work for the FBI!
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:16 pm to Indefatigable
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Indefatigable
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And if they start confiscating weapons or locking up kids on this level of information, people here would be screeching about red flag laws and posting the Wikipedia definition of the word "infringe."
In cities and states where we don't have Soros courts, minors in possession, are minors in illegal possession. As minors cannot legally posses a firearm.
I'd go head to head with anybody on either side, who would say that it would fall into the area of Red Flags. It's literally not, as the kid cannot legally possess.
As for the whole thing about 2a for minors. At this age? It's not responsible. For these city kids, it is most definitely not responsible.
If they are shooting with experienced shooters, who are taking care to make sure that they are doing so safely, then by all means. But kids this young, PACKING HEAT? No.
And anybody that wants to fight me on that... here's the warning. I was in the streets at 12. I've seen this shet first hand. Just to warn y'all.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:20 pm to Wolfwireless
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In cities and states where we don't have Soros courts, minors in possession, are minors in illegal possession. As minors cannot legally posses a firearm.
I'd go head to head with anybody on either side, who would say that it would fall into the area of Red Flags. It's literally not, as the kid cannot legally possess.
As for the whole thing about 2a for minors. At this age? It's not responsible. For these city kids, it is most definitely not responsible.
If they are shooting with experienced shooters, who are taking care to make sure that they are doing so safely, then by all means. But kids this young, PACKING HEAT? No.
And anybody that wants to fight me on that... here's the warning. I was in the streets at 12. I've seen this shet first hand. Just to warn y'all.
Yea, no one is talking about the kid owning his own weapons.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:25 pm to deeprig9
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Because of laws and shite, minors, homey. I don't know what way you are trying to spin this.
My “spin” is what exactly is the point of surveillance if the FBI, the local sheriff department and the school aren’t going to actually act on that information?
There were online terroristic threats made, traced within 24 hours to this specific kid. Law enforcement investigated and determined there was no probable cause for arrest or any additional law enforcement action. Was their cybercrime intelligence wrong? Did this kid not actually make the terroristic threats they traced to him in May 2023? Pretty big coincidence if so that they mistakenly attributed the threats to this kid, who ended up committing the threatened actions a year later.
Or did he actually make the threats but was exempt from any consequences, legal or school-related, because of his age?
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The school system should have expelled his arse, IF THE fbi story is true.
Agreed, if the story is true, he should not have been allowed to remain in a normal school environment. I’m not sure I understand your spin on why the FBI would make up this story that they investigated this kid over a year ago for threats of doing the exact thing he later did. I’m not saying they didn’t, I just don’t see how it would benefit them to make this up?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:42 pm to Indefatigable
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Yea, no one is talking about the kid owning his own weapons.
Sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant if anybody wanted to start wailing about red flags (which violate several constitutional rights) or wanted to fight about age not mattering for 2A.
I meant that if somebody wanted to take that stand, they'd have no ground under their feet.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:43 pm to Lightning
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I’m not saying they didn’t, I just don’t see how it would benefit them to make this up?
Like any large organization, it's PR. Trying to get in front of the situation. "He was on our radar but we didn't have anything concrete to lock up a child for". They followed the book, the book wasn't enough, now we just need to do more more more more more...... see where I'm going with this?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:50 pm to Seldom Seen
I would say that their strategy is to get it out early rather than later. Will likely be more things to get mad at as more information becomes available.
As someone that on occasion refers threat cases to law enforcement it is very frustrating that most cases you are met with resistance on these types of cases were computers are involved. Law enforcement or prosecutors will ask how do you know that this person actually typed those words, "do you have video"? Of course I don't, but with some hard work of piecing other communications together you could present a circumstantial case.
They are always resistant. Once that hesitation to prosecute makes it way down to law enforcement, apathy sets in.
As someone that on occasion refers threat cases to law enforcement it is very frustrating that most cases you are met with resistance on these types of cases were computers are involved. Law enforcement or prosecutors will ask how do you know that this person actually typed those words, "do you have video"? Of course I don't, but with some hard work of piecing other communications together you could present a circumstantial case.
They are always resistant. Once that hesitation to prosecute makes it way down to law enforcement, apathy sets in.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:03 pm to Lightning
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My “spin” is what exactly is the point of surveillance if the FBI, the local sheriff department and the school aren’t going to actually act on that information?
My guess is that the family moved and information wasn't shared with the new school system.
In May 2023 the FBI was tipped to the posting, tracked it and turned it over to local law enforcement. They interviewed him and the dad, decided nothing was actionable, but alerted the local schools. This was in Jackson County at the end of the 2022-2023 school year. Nothing happens during the 2023-2024. School year.
Family moves to the neighboring county (Barrow) possibly even after school starts (rumor is he was not a student at Apalachee when school started in early August). For whatever reason Jackson County neglected to tell Barrow County about the 2023 incident.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:40 pm to PJinAtl
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For whatever reason Jackson County neglected to tell Barrow County about the 2023 incident.
Just mind boggling the amount of incompetence that happens on a day to day basis.
Think of a person with average intelligence. Half the people are dumber than them.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:09 am to Seldom Seen
Everyone's on their radar.
You're on their radar. I'm on their radar.
You're on their radar. I'm on their radar.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:16 am to Seldom Seen
MK ULTRA ! Locate a stooge and brainwash him into doing your will. Same song different verse. Has there ever been a school shooter that they didn't know about? Was Crookes on the radar? You bet. The only surprising thing is, this kid is still sucking good air. They usually eliminate them.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:50 am to deeprig9
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you'd have to prove a lot more than unsecured firearms.
if i leave a 45 on my night stand and my 3 year old kills my wife with it am i not responsible?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:35 am to Indefatigable
Rather than blindly confiscating.. they should probably investigate and put in for some ol wiretaps. If a motherfricker is that crazy and targets a school, then just taking guns doesn't fix the problem. It won't make the crazy person... not crazy.
We need more mental hospitals.
We need more mental hospitals.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:43 am to deeprig9
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Criminal murder accessory is a stretch, you'd have to prove a lot more than unsecured firearms.
Not in Florida
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