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Officer captured on video killing Black man in Walmart charged with manslaughter

Posted on 9/3/20 at 2:28 am
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14861 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 2:28 am
Why is this keep happening? Black person refuses to cooperate to drop the bat. Is this a new thing to black people to make cops look bad?

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Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 2:43 am to
No fathers in the home.

They have never had to obey authority figures. Especially white males.

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 2:56 am to
Occurred in April. The officer has been charged with a crime.
Posted by diddyMax
St. George
Member since Jun 2020
219 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 3:17 am to
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Why is this keep happening? Black person refuses to cooperate to drop the bat. Is this a new thing to black people to make cops look bad?



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HE DINDU NUFFIN
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9125 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 3:21 am to
To me, the charges were filed to create a story that supports the need to change from police to social workers. I'm not sure how a social worker can disarm a deranged person with a bat, but I would like to watch the attempt from a safe distance.
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3232 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 3:31 am to
Is it weird that I'm glad this one won't go down as an "unarmed black man" lol this shite is getting so old
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5707 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 4:18 am to
Why would anyone want to be a policeman in today's environment? Non-compliance seems to be a trend these days and cops are being treated worst than soldiers returning home from Vietnam in the late 60's.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 4:53 am to
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Officer captured on video killing Black man in Walmart charged with manslaughter
Why is this keep happening? Black person refuses to cooperate to drop the bat.
Obviously he should have dropped the bat. The dude was high on something. Sad case. But was a death sentence the necessary outcome when he refused to cooperate?

As with questionable use of middle-of-night no-knock raids, this is another example of an area where police training reform is necessary. It is an example of standard practice stupidity.

Standard police firearm practice is to shoot "center of mass". Period. That is how these guys are trained. Breaking training protocol can get cops in deep trouble. So, as they are trained, so they operate.

We are going to find the same issue in the Chauvin-Floyd case as well. Chauvin was likely doing exactly as his office and training had directed. By the book. No variance. Protocol dictates in "X" circumstance the officer do A, B, C. That's what is done.

So cops are trained to shoot "center of mass". In scenarios where the perp has a firearm, or is charging at the cop, shooting "center of mass" is absolutely appropriate.

However, in situations where the guy has a baseball bat and is 6ft away, or he's drunk and running away in a Wendy's parking lot, these cops should be trained to disable, not to kill. In this case, I'd bet planting a slug or two into BabeRuth's femur would have gotten him to drop the bat.

Sucks being a cop right now. You're damned if you do. Damned if you don't. I'd guess had the officer actually shot the leg, he'd have been reprimanded and disciplined for ignoring his firearms training.

So BabeRuth goes down for the count . . .
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 4:56 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 4:57 am to
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he'd have been reprimanded and disciplined for ignoring his firearms training.


Exactly, he would be reprimanded for not following proper protocol.


But, that might be preferable to the situation that he is in now.

Is it any Wonder why cops are leaving the profession in droves?
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12138 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:06 am to

This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:38 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:23 am to
America doesn't really have a racist police force problem.


America has a resisting arrest problem.
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:23 am to
Time stamp on the video says April 18th. Why the fuk are we talking about this now like it happened yesterday? Why you ask because there is an election in 60 days and this story from 5 months ago helps shape a lie that black men are being killed by racist police.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6453 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:24 am to
quote:

However, in situations where the guy has a baseball bat and is 6ft away, or he's drunk and running away in a Wendy's parking lot, these cops should be trained to disable, not to kill. In this case, I'd bet planting a slug or two into BabeRuth's femur would have gotten him to drop the bat.


Easier said than done. When the bullet knicks an artery, he will still be charged with homicide.

So we just need to only have officers that can hit a 3 inch square at several feet under adrenaline and pressure. No problem at all.

How about we give cops tranq guns with powerful paralytics?

Or maybe idiots can just learn to not commit crimes and fight the cops, and normal people can stop caring when they suffer for it. I think this is the best method, personally.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131226 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:24 am to
or black fathers could teach their kids not to commit felonies. but when they do and are caught, they should comply with the police.
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:31 am to
quote:

Obviously he should have dropped the bat. The dude was high on something. Sad case. But was a death sentence the necessary outcome when he refused to cooperate?


How fast do you think someone can close a 17 foot gap and swing a bat? How many shots can the cop get off in that timeframe? What if he misses or doesn't seriously hurt the suspect?

It takes ONE swing of a bat to kill, seriously hurt, or at least disable someone... if I had a confrontation with someone holding a bat in a threatening manner within 15-20 feet of me, I would absolutely consider it a deadly threat.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12507 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:34 am to
quote:

How about we give cops tranq guns with powerful paralytics?


Because if the dosage isn’t right the perp would suffocate to death. That’s why an anesthesiologist makes pretty good money.

And we already have a few cities burned down from a jackass ingesting fentanyl to keep from being caught with it.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:54 am to
The solution is obvious and simple… The police officer should pick up another thug from the hood in route to the crime scene. If the suspect at the crime scene gets out of hand the thug who came along for the ride can shoot him dead and no one will say a word, certainly not the media or the AA community. Suspect is neutralized. Police officer is not implicated. Nothing in the news. No one cares.
Posted by stFrancisville
Member since Sep 2018
344 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:56 am to
quote:

Why would anyone want to be a policeman in today's environment?


They wouldn't. That's another Soros tactic to destroy America. He needs to stop breathing. Soon.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18579 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:01 am to
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No fathers in the home.

They have never had to obey authority figures. Especially white males.



Thanks LBJ. The newer(ish) component is social media and cell phones and near absolute condemnation of the police for doing their jobs. Now, not only do these black men have zero experience with authority in the home, they also have the idea that they don't have to listen to police because they will be martyred. It is a societal sickness.

Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30677 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:02 am to
quote:

However, in situations where the guy has a baseball bat and is 6ft away, or he's drunk and running away in a Wendy's parking lot, these cops should be trained to disable, not to kill. In this case, I'd bet planting a slug or two into BabeRuth's femur would have gotten him to drop the bat.



Either this is bait or I'll take that bet.

You can have live ammo, I get a real metal bat. You use a holster with 3 levels of retention and I guarantee you won't even get the gun out.

How much you want put on this?

We could
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