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Of the last 4 Presidents who has been the toughest on Russia

Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:00 pm
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12809 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:00 pm
Clinton
Bush
Obama
Trump?

No goofy muh collusion fairy tales. I want to see cold hard facts.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:01 pm to
Obama
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29644 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:02 pm to
Trump, and it isn't even close

Obama was weak and ineffective, just like with everything else
Posted by Radler_the_weinerdog
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:05 pm to
Trump has gone down on Russia like nobody’s business. You are whistling through the wheat field if you don’t recognize
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48009 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:08 pm to
Except when 200 of their troops were bombed, right?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:09 pm to
Obama wanted to negotiate on missile defense.

I heard him say it. So did you.


Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12809 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:10 pm to
I asked specifically for facts and not goofy muh collusion fairy tales.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Trump has gone down on Russia like nobody’s business. You are whistling through the wheat field if you don’t recognize



God damn this is fricking ignorant, if not flat stupid.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89658 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:13 pm to
President Trump is tougher on Russia in 18 months than Obama in eight years


So much so, the sanctions resemble a Russian nesting doll: one sanction of top of another, on top of another.

Just last April, the Trump administration imposed new sanctions on Russia — including strict sanctions on seven of Russia’s richest individuals and 17 top government officials for their interference in our elections.

The sanctions directly penalized President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle by prohibiting them from traveling to the United States ever again. He did this by opening a bank account in the West, preventing them from doing business with the West and prohibiting anyone else to do business on their behalf.

The sanctions were significant — among the toughest sanctions ever placed on individuals in a foreign country, with the exception of perhaps Iran and North Korea. Yet like many of Trump’s successes, it received minimal mainstream media coverage.

During his first month in office in January 2017, President Trump upheld strict sanctions to punish Russia for its unlawful 2014 annexation of Crimea. With those sanctions, the Trump administration punished more than three dozen individuals and organizations that were behind the invasion of Ukraine.

The Hill

Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by OleWar
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Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:16 pm to
What is the purpose for being tough with Russia?

Clinton had a decent relationship with Russia but Yeltsin was in power until his awful Secretary of State and trying to get attention away form Monica caused a foolish confrontation over Kosovo.

Bush had a decent relationship with the Russians but foreign policy missteps on both sides led to the 2008 war in Georgia along with other issues that strained the relationship.

Obama's policy was by far the worst combining effete weakness with outright duplicity.

I think Trump understands the above but the insanity of both the Democratic Party and the Foreign Policy "elites" is going to result in who knows what.
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:16 pm to
Obama did send Russian economy into a recession by tanking the price of oil (boosting US production) after Putin sent troops into the Crimea.







This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 6:19 pm
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15318 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Just last April, the Trump administration imposed new sanctions on Russia — including strict sanctions on seven of Russia’s richest individuals and 17 top government officials for their interference in our elections.


I thought Russia had nothing to do with election interference?! Putin said it himself!
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6565 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

President Trump is tougher on Russia in 18 months than Obama in eight years
They don’t care about actual actions just perceptions. Cause Obama talked tough and gave him a dirty look once he was tougher on Russia.
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
12491 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:24 pm to
I don't get the "Trump is Russia's" buddy narrative. Just from the top of my head:

Tough sanctions
Couple dozen diplomats being expelled
Lethal weapons to Ukraine and Georgia
Killing a couple hundred Russian "mercs" (they weren't mercs)

A "buddy" doesn't do that
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:25 pm to
Obama and his minions were trying to starve Russia. Bill Browder was stealing everything he could especially natural gas.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12809 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:27 pm to
We just broke a record last week for oil production. 11 million bpd.
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:30 pm to
Correct but we also forced iranian crude out of the global oil trade
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62841 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Trump has gone down on Russia like nobody’s business. You are whistling through the wheat field if you don’t recognize


Obama went to bat for Russia in a presidential debate.

People like you applauded him and laughed at supid Romney.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26621 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:33 pm to
Swollowswell admitted today on Fox that Trump was tough on Russia, but it didn’t count because he was forced to be tough, but didn’t really want to.

No, really. He said that.
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