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re: Obamacare architect talking about the lack of transparency on purpose.

Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:30 pm to
They apparently achieved their goal of writing a muddled bill because barack h. obama surely didn't understand what was in the legislation.

Of course that was obvious when Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor took time to explain the bill to ole barry and it was apparent he didn't understand what was written.

Hell, that's his out. "I didn't lie. They pulled the wool over my eyes too."
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18528 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:31 pm to
Gruber tell the androgynous MSNBC host that he is sorry for the "stupidity of the American voters" comment. Doesn't seem sorry for much else.

Gruber on MSNBC

Notice how Gruber's eyes shift off to the left as he obviously begins reading off a prepared answer to the perfectly served-up question by the "journalist."

Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:34 pm to
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He represents one of the most gerrymandered districts in our state. It's designed to get a white republican elected which is why he runs unopposed.



I don't even....
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:43 pm to
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Gruber on MSNBC


Well that explains it. After Brown was elected, they had to vote on the Senate version, typos and all. For some reason or another, they were not able to fix any mistakes in the bill. Errbody got that?

What a clown show.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Gruber on MSNBC

Well, he said he was sorry, so that is the end of this story.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45924 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:40 pm to
2 days and not a lib to defend him. Have the talking points not been written yet?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135772 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:41 pm to
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2 days and not a lib to defend him.


Seriously?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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45924 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:59 pm to
I don't think so...
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:03 pm to
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Seriously?


The closest any Liberal/Progressive has come to defending this;


BobBoucher - page 3
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:21 pm to
Screw this guy


The ACA should be repealed, and this comes from someone who prayed it would've helped us during these tough times. We hoped that those down on their luck could get the boost needed to get back on our feet, but that didn't happened. We can't afford the outrageous deductibles within these ACA plans. I shopped and all this is turned into a very bad joke while politicians play chess with our life's. First my wife got sick and I pray for anyone who's in these tough situations.....

Democrats should pay for all the lies told
Their leadership needs to be totally purged
They'll have to earn our trust back

Congress(Dems and Reps),
Make a law that's good for everyone, and not just some, but everyone!!!! No mandates, if it's good it will sell itself or just expand medicaid or something. This has to be better than this ACA joke we've got now.

This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

First my wife got sick...

The most important part of your post bro. Prayers for you and yours. And I hope something can be done to help (rather than hurt) those in need.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:48 pm to
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The most important part of your post bro. Prayers for you and yours. And I hope something can be done to help (rather than hurt) those in need.

Thanks
I pray and wish that anyone who needs helps
Receives the help they need too

In a Nation as well off as we are
No one should have to worry about health issues
Ruining them financially
Posted by half cajun
Katy, TX
Member since Sep 2007
1971 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:51 pm to
This is an article about the citizen who found these clips. He's just a guy who lost his insurance and began doing the job the media should have been doing.
LINK

Siap
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:19 pm to
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LINK

Excellent article. Thanks for posting. Actually is deserving of it's own thread. This guy is going to get audited right quick and in a hurry.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

This is an article about the citizen who found these clips. He's just a guy who lost his insurance and began doing the job the media should have been doing. LINK Siap


Greta red, and it's amazing what one person is capable of when they start paying attention. Plus, it helped they ticked him off..... lol I will never trust what's being told to me by any media source without back checking it first. It's tough to find honest news but one has to try.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23147 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

Gruber on MSNBC
Oh my i didn't know his comment was "nuanced" and was merely a commentary on the "opaque" nature of the bill itself. Thanks Ronan Farrow!
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19913 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

“What’s important to remember politically about this is if you're a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don't get their tax credits—but your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill,” said Gruber. “So you’re essentially saying [to] your citizens you’re going to pay all the taxes to help all the other states in the country.”



Here's the VIDEO of him saying this.....


And, NOW, this lying c*cksucker is not only going around saying that it is a "TYPO" but he's also signed a court brief saying that it's a typo and that the participants in the state exchanges were always meant to get a subsidy.

The Republicans should be DEMANDING that he be tried for perjury and signing a fraudulent statement with the court ... and should make the new A.G. appointee promise to go after this lying scumbag.

Also, this video has been out for over a year. Ronan Farrow should be suspended for not confronting this scumbag with his direct words instead of letting him just go on lying his a$$ off. I'll hold my breath waiting for MSNBC to do the right thing!
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 10:36 pm
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:16 am to
People even trying to defend this look silly
How anyone with a just mind trust the Democrats right now is beyond me. While doing my morning channel surfing I thought I just witnessed another video with the same guy calling Americans not smart. So much for this guys "It was a momentary slip" excuse I've read about. Americans should be furious over these ACA revelations because this is pretty much a smoking gun.

HOW DID OUR MEDIA MISS THIS ???
It took some citizen to bring this to light
That's the most disturbing part here
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18528 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:24 am to
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HOW DID OUR MEDIA MISS THIS ???


It is plausible that they all could have missed it. What is inexplicable, and inexcusable is that the video is now a "known," and none of them have said squat about it.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54469 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:38 am to
At first I was somewhat hesitant about the new Congress coming up with their mantra of "repeal Omamacare" but after reading about this POS and watching news reports about this POS, I am in the tank now for repeal and starting over with a more simplistic version.
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