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Obama purged many dedicated career military officers and weakened the services much like
Posted on 5/26/19 at 2:43 am
Posted on 5/26/19 at 2:43 am
Joe Stalin in Russia except he didn't send them on a one way furlough of course. His actions were so remarkably arbitrary that many others resigned since they refused to serve under him. Living in a military town it was disgusting to hear what was going on first hand.
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 2:48 am to jimdog
I didn’t and don’t like Obama
But don’t be ridiculous and compare his actions to the Soviet Purges
It makes it hard for people to pay attention to the valid criticisms you may have
But don’t be ridiculous and compare his actions to the Soviet Purges
It makes it hard for people to pay attention to the valid criticisms you may have
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:37 am to Manzielathon
Please learn to read and reason before you leap. Particularly about a subject you very obviously have zero knowledge of. Failure to do so leaves you shallow and to use your words: ridiculous.
Removed professionals dedicated to the service in favor of ones dedicated to me. CHECK on the accuracy!
At the detriment to the protection and readiness of the nations defenses. Not to mention the destroyed careers. CHECK on the accuracy!
But of course did not murder any. CHECK on the accuracy!
Reading skills are enhanced by accompanying comprehension logistics.
Further I didn't and don't have any personal feelings
toward BO as a person. His is a remarkable story. His lib politics were a disaster. As you "claim" to have to justify or as a cover for your defense of his destructive purges. I do have a deep lack of respect for his arbitrary and contrary actions.
Removed professionals dedicated to the service in favor of ones dedicated to me. CHECK on the accuracy!
At the detriment to the protection and readiness of the nations defenses. Not to mention the destroyed careers. CHECK on the accuracy!
But of course did not murder any. CHECK on the accuracy!
Reading skills are enhanced by accompanying comprehension logistics.
Further I didn't and don't have any personal feelings
toward BO as a person. His is a remarkable story. His lib politics were a disaster. As you "claim" to have to justify or as a cover for your defense of his destructive purges. I do have a deep lack of respect for his arbitrary and contrary actions.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 3:49 am
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:37 am to Manzielathon
quote:
But don’t be ridiculous and compare his actions to the Soviet Purges
It makes it hard for people to pay attention to the valid criticisms you may have
It's always nice to see there are still sane, rational people around.
Not everything has to be virtuously good or evilishly bad.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:38 am to jimdog
quote:
Please learn to read and reason before you leap. Particularly about a subject you very obviously have zero knowledge of. Failure to do so leaves you shallow and to use your words: ridiculous.
Removed professionals dedicated to the service in favor of ones dedicated to me. CHECK on the accuracy!
Lol is this a joke?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:45 am to BurningHeart
The Obama excusers are out in force. Your blind ignorance or complicity is showing.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:47 am to jimdog
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The Obama excusers are out in force. Your blind ignorance or complicity is showing
Most of my beliefs are conservative.
That doesn't blind me to the fact that you haven't refuted back with anything of substance
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:53 am to BurningHeart
Won't waste ANYMORE time arguing with a butthurt over football fan who either suffers from a failure of comp or makes his judgement based on a goofy football rivalry. LOL! Obama was a disaster and we will be years climbing out from his tenure. Own it.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:58 am to jimdog
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Won't waste ANYMORE time arguing with a butthurt over football fan who either suffers from a failure of comp or makes his judgement based on a goofy football rivalry. LOL! Obama was a disaster and we will be years climbing out from his tenure. Own it.
Uhh...
You need a doctor bud?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:02 am to jimdog
I assume you are referring to this?
Investors Business 197 Officer Purges
Here is some clarity on 6 of those officers.
Skeptoid: Did Obama Really Purge the Military?
Investors Business 197 Officer Purges
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Defense: What the president calls "my military" is being cleansed of any officer suspected of disloyalty to or disagreement with the administration on matters of policy or force structure, leaving the compliant and fearful.
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Nine senior commanding generals have been fired by the Obama administration this year, leading to speculation by active and retired members of the military that a purge of its commanders is under way.
Here is some clarity on 6 of those officers.
Skeptoid: Did Obama Really Purge the Military?
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Major General C.M.M. Gurganus — This was one of two generals asked to retire early by the Commandant of the Marine Corps after a September 2012 Taliban surprise attack on a Marine airbase. Gurganus was found to have "not taken adequate force protection measures" at Camp Bastion, which led to the death of two Marines and the destruction of six Harrier jet fighters.
Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant — Sturdevant was the other general asked to retire in the wake of the Camp Bastion attack.
Brigadier General Bryan Roberts — The former commanding officer of Fort Jackson, the largest training post in the US Army, Roberts was suspended in May 2013 after an investigation into adultery and a physical altercation with a woman described as his mistress. Adultery in the military is punishable as an action that can bring discredit upon the armed forces.
Major General Ralph Baker — Baker was removed from his post as commanding officer of Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, as well as fined, after an administrative hearing into alcohol abuse and sexual misconduct charges in April 2013.
Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette — Gaouette held the position of commanding officer of Carrier Strike Group Three until a reprimand from the US Navy led to his removal. He was found to have used profanity in public and made several racially insensitive remarks. The origin of the complaint might have come from the captain of the aircraft carrier assigned to the Strike Group, who alleged Gaouette had humiliated him in public.
General Carter F. Ham — The commander of US Command Africa, Ham retired in the wake of the September 2011 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Though the attack itself generated enormous controversy and blame on the Obama administration, Ham himself was never reprimanded and served the entirety of his two-year posting in Africa, retiring as scheduled at age 62, after a 40-year career.
Obviously, the context of these nine "firings" puts the entire validity of the list into question. Many were removed for misconduct or violation of military protocol. Several were near or at the Army's mandatory retirement age of 62. None were simply sacked willy nilly by President Obama. More than a conspiracy or purge, it speaks to a renewed lack of tolerance for behavior among senior officers that brings disgrace or embarrassment on the military as a whole.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:26 am to jimdog
There were many reports of this going on while it was happening.
Odumbf*ck politicized every aspect of the government. From the Justice Department, to the Judicial branch, to the military, to the IRS. Odumbf*ck was/is the most paranoid f*ck this country has ever seen. If you didn't march in goosestep with Odumbf*ck's demented political ideology and didn't treat Odumbf*ck like he was your personal Messiah, you were gone.
Odumbf*ck politicized every aspect of the government. From the Justice Department, to the Judicial branch, to the military, to the IRS. Odumbf*ck was/is the most paranoid f*ck this country has ever seen. If you didn't march in goosestep with Odumbf*ck's demented political ideology and didn't treat Odumbf*ck like he was your personal Messiah, you were gone.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 4:54 am
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:26 am to volod
Good info. But no I got my info hands on. My friend was once the commandant of a large Army facility. A hero and beloved by the troops. A professional in every regard and a very public relations aware individual. He resigned from the service and left along with many others during the Obama purges. "I cannot effectively serve someone whom I cannot respect" was his rationale. And then the punchline that spoke of being rewarded for political leanings. He took a corp position and has gotten rich but has never gotten over the damage BO was responsible for.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:29 am to BurningHeart
Never know at my age. But my cardiologist just gave me a 5 star rating but thanks for your "concerns" for an old soldier.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:32 am to jimdog
Two posts and not one shred of evidence yet calls out others.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 4:38 am to volod
I believe one has to look no further than General Flynn to see what happens to someone who does not believe in the mantra of the old administration. We will not just fire you, we will ruin you AND YOUR FAMILY financially and destroy your reputation.
And it was not just the military, it was the education system "Dear Colleague Letter", the IRS, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the DNI, the EPA, you name it.
Altering physical specs to allow women in combat, or allow trans to transition in the military at govt expense, has no place in our military. Its not a place for social experiments or SJ behavior, and those who disagree should not have been destroyed.
And it was not just the military, it was the education system "Dear Colleague Letter", the IRS, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the DNI, the EPA, you name it.
Altering physical specs to allow women in combat, or allow trans to transition in the military at govt expense, has no place in our military. Its not a place for social experiments or SJ behavior, and those who disagree should not have been destroyed.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:11 am to FightnBobLafollette
quote:You really are not good at this. In fact, you are really bad at it.
Two posts and not one shred of evidence yet calls out others.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:19 am to NC_Tigah
My post was directed at him. Nor did I say he was wrong.
Do you even read?
Do you even read?
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 5:21 am
Posted on 5/26/19 at 5:56 am to FightnBobLafollette
quote:Your post ridiculously stated "not one shred of evidence yet". The OP only claimed knowledge through direct conversations. Veracity of those conversations was questioned. That is fair, I guess. However, another poster backed up the conversational content with a litany of citations.
My post was directed at him
You subsequently argued against the OP as bring unsupported by evidence, even in a thread where a torrent of evidence in direct support of the OP was produced.
You avoided supporting information then.
That info was there for your response.
It still is.
I've even waited, to give you an opportunity to subsequently address ample evidence in this thread. IAW your habit, I suspect you will continue to avoid it or issue a simpleton baseless denial of its validity, while claiming others are not bringing facts to the table.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 6:30 am to volod
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Skeptoid
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General Carter F. Ham — The commander of US Command Africa, Ham retired in the wake of the September 2011 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Though the attack itself generated enormous controversy and blame on the Obama administration, Ham himself was never reprimanded and served the entirety of his two-year posting in Africa, retiring as scheduled at age 62, after a 40-year career.
This is clearly a biased, POS outlet. Ham had nothing to do with Benghazi, other than he was the the one that was prevented from sending support to Benghazi. Never reprimanded for Benghazi - WTF? Crazy leftist bull shite.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 6:47 am to jimdog
Dude, get a grip. Obama is no Stalin. It is this divisive shite that polarizes the country, and just might swing the presidency back to Jolting Joe who is preaching calmness and decency.
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