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NYT opinion - Supreme Court needs term limits

Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:32 pm
Or in other words, "shite's not going our way. Let's change the rules!"

NYT clicks

So this week, HRC has called for doing away with the Electoral College. And Now some blowhard at the NYT thinks we should do away with life time appointments. If shite had gone the other way, no way that argument gets made.

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No other major democracy has lifetime appointments to its highest court. Only the United States does, and it creates all kinds of problems.

For one, our system often does not respect the will of the people. Rather than the Supreme Court’s makeup being determined by elections over many years, it’s based on a combination of those elections and the randomness of how long justices live. Jimmy Carter was unable to make a single nomination to the court because no justice died or retired during his four-year presidency. Richard Nixon filled four seats during his five-and-a-half years as president.

“The policy future of the country,” Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute has written, “depends as much on the actuarial tables and the luck of the draw for presidents as it does on the larger trends in politics and society.”


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This unfairness born of randomness isn’t the only problem. Given the deep partisan polarization in America, lifetime appointments have also turned confirmations into epic political battles. That’s why the Brett Kavanaugh process feels so momentous. It’s why the Merrick Garland process — or the lack of one — still enrages so many people.

“It makes the stakes too high,” the political scientist Lee Drutman wrote this summer in Vox. “So here’s a simple idea to dial down some of the destructive warfare of the Supreme Court confirmation process: term limits for Supreme Court justices.”


More in article. I'm actually quite impressed that they come up with a new way to try and resist every day.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:33 pm to
I'll support that when we first force term limits on Congress.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94599 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:33 pm to
Some guy in a wheelchair tried that back in the 30s. Didn’t go so well for him.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:33 pm to
Bingo
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118542 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

NYT opinion - Supreme Court needs term limits


I'm actually okay with this.

And what scrooster said.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1084 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

does not respect the will of the people


That's the whole point. We are a nation of laws, not men.
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7719 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:34 pm to


Obama Told Us ‘Elections Have Consequences.’

They sure do muthafrickers , they sure do . You lose , we win and will continue to win .
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134816 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:35 pm to
So now they want term limits in addition to doing away with the electoral college.

They also praised Harry Reid for the nuclear option but were appalled when the right wanted to use it
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57106 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:35 pm to
I have no problem with this. Term limits for Congress, too.

@ Jimmy Carter not getting to appoint a Justice to the USSC.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 2:40 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45678 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:36 pm to
They skeered that Trump will get two, maybe three more bites at the apple and the court will be stacked for at least three decades.

Reason #1 Trump was the right vote.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115257 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:37 pm to
Its amazing how things don't "reflect the will of the people" when a R is in power but suddenly do when a D is in power.

Truly interesting.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:38 pm to
Yep, start with Congressional limits, then we can talk.

I'd be alright with a 15 year or so term.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94599 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:38 pm to
Three?

Maybe more.


RBG and Breyer are very old. Sotomayor has diabetes and doesn’t look so good. And Clarence Thomas sure as shite won’t let the Dems pick his successor after his confirmation hearing and the Kavanaugh clusterfrick.


I could legitimately see Kagan as the only remaining Dem appointee if the stars align.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33932 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:38 pm to
Constitutional Conventions are such a bitch
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9892 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:39 pm to
I saw a proposal for single 18-year terms staggered so that every 2 years 1 justice would change. It would disincentive the feet dragging we've been seeing from opposition parties.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:39 pm to
The Supreme Court not reflecting the will of the people is a feature, not a bug.

Funny how these swampers never call for congressional term limits.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112351 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:40 pm to
Why didn't the NYT publish this article when RBG turned 70?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57106 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Sotomayor has diabetes and doesn’t look so good.


No doubt! She looks terrible.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94599 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:41 pm to
Which was when, back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:42 pm to
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No other major democracy has lifetime appointments to its highest court


America is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. I did not keep reading.
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