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re: NYT: investigators believe dossier could be deliberate kremlin disinformation campaign
Posted on 4/20/19 at 7:29 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 4/20/19 at 7:29 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm calling BS on this. This is an attempt by the NYT to give the Dems an out for any CRIMINAL conspiracy, by introducing the narrative that it was the Ruskies who presented the Dossier as a political strategy of disruption, and not the HRC Campaign who originally solicited/constructed it.
NEVER trust the NYT, or any Progressive. The despise the Constitution. Hell, the Vermont Governor is moving to destroy Monuments of Columbus. They worship an Authoritarian State...and if they keep it up...they'll get one. Just not the version they imagine.
NEVER trust the NYT, or any Progressive. The despise the Constitution. Hell, the Vermont Governor is moving to destroy Monuments of Columbus. They worship an Authoritarian State...and if they keep it up...they'll get one. Just not the version they imagine.
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 7:31 am to gthog61
They are following the new narrative Brennan laid out....I must have gotten bad intel.
Thats the new storyline, we got bad intel and we were so concerned about the safety of our country, we had to take precautions and surveil some people. Better safe than sorry. Its all good lets move on.
Thats the new storyline, we got bad intel and we were so concerned about the safety of our country, we had to take precautions and surveil some people. Better safe than sorry. Its all good lets move on.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 7:39 am to RCDfan1950
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I'm calling BS on this. This is an attempt by the NYT to give the Dems an out for any CRIMINAL conspiracy, by introducing the narrative that it was the Ruskies who presented the Dossier as a political strategy of disruption, and not the HRC Campaign who originally solicited/constructed it.
I'm very skeptical that there was any Russian input at all. Don't forget the second dossier. Sydney Blumenthal's hatchet man/dirty trickster Cody Shearer made up the whole thing and they passed it through Steele's hands to try and wash away the stink of the Clinton Foundation. If Steele ever appears before an American grand jury he's going to sing quite a song.
And I will dance and dance and dance.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 7:58 am to MrCarton
Didn’t Steele say that most of his proof for his dossier content was “open source” research?
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:10 am to John McClane
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Didn’t Steele say that most of his proof for his dossier content was “open source” research?
I seem to recall that, but it's been a while since I've looked over it. It would make sense, if he's doing "opposition research", that he would use open source information to build the of DJT.
That bit isn't particularly relevant to the claims he's made about his "Russian sources" though.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 8:11 am
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:11 am to CamdenTiger
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Yeah, the guy just made stuff up, there was never any real shite going down. From what he said, he used Onion type sites to write this shite, and you know the FBI knew it...
No way man, Kremlin operation against Obama!
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:15 am to IslandBuckeye
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The absolute worst is your inability to accept any other views than your own. Perhaps you are unwittingly helping as well.
Dude, I accept views that make sense and have supporting evidence. Since I know just a smidge about how intelligence gathering and vetting works, I know what a complete bullshite report looks like.
This was a complete bullshite report. Every major detail fabricated. There were no secret Russian sources, the stories were made up. Until I see evidence otherwise, I'll consider Steele to be the liar and fabricator he admits that he is.
It's that simple.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 8:22 am
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:21 am to gthog61
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You stupid mother fricker
Steele got his "information" from Russians. They made up shite to sow discord in our election. That is simple.
And is your fricking Google broken? Go find the shite yourself halfwit. Who the frick are you to be waited on hand and foot?
So I'm the stupid MF that's taking the word of a guy to admits to wholesale fabrication? Go look at the facts about Steele and his "intel" reporting, then tell me that you still believe this report was anything but a pure fabrication from a complete and total hack. A known liar a known fabricator.
Steele just copy pasted some other political hit piece that's made its way around DC, traveled around a bit to create a cover story for his bullshite report, wrote some shite down (some of it he admits came from CNN comments sections and satire sites), then submitted it. This is the most likely explanation for the report, which has been absolutely obliterated by actual facts.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 8:29 am
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:23 am to MrCarton
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Until I see evidence otherwise
Fair enough.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:24 am to trinidadtiger
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Thats the new storyline, we got bad intel and we were so concerned about the safety of our country, we had to take precautions and surveil some people. Better safe than sorry. Its all good lets move on.
Familiar storyline...
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:27 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 8:30 am
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:32 am to MrCarton
Here is what the NYT is admitting, though:
They say efforts to hastily verify the dossier claims began immediately AFTER it was published in January 2017. There is only one tiny problem with that.
The FBI obtained a FISA warrant in OCTOBER 2016 with the bulk of information being the Steele dossier. If verification efforts didn't begin until January then why did the FBI swear the everything in the application was accurate and verified??
Hint: It wasn't. The Woods Procedures weren't followed
They say efforts to hastily verify the dossier claims began immediately AFTER it was published in January 2017. There is only one tiny problem with that.
The FBI obtained a FISA warrant in OCTOBER 2016 with the bulk of information being the Steele dossier. If verification efforts didn't begin until January then why did the FBI swear the everything in the application was accurate and verified??
Hint: It wasn't. The Woods Procedures weren't followed
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:39 am to Bunyan
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The FBI obtained a FISA warrant in OCTOBER 2016 with the bulk of information being the Steele dossier. If verification efforts didn't begin until January then why did the FBI swear the everything in the application was accurate and verified??
Hint: It wasn't. The Woods Procedures weren't followed
Oh yeah, absolutely. The FBI /FISA procedures should be the primary focus of the counter strike. It's obvious, according to their own testimony, that they fraudulently obtained a warrant. Strzok went judge shopping, the FBI used RUMINT and then claimed a Yahoo news article as a second source after They canned Steele for going to the media with the dossier.
The FBI nexus is massive and needs to be exhausted. There is so much there there.
Just the way Strzok flippantly discussed his plan to create a cover for talking to the judge he wanted on the case tells me the corruption is massive. Sounds like they do this all the time. Maybe why their warrant applications are approved 9.5/10 times
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:44 am to Bwmdx
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Today’s Democrats are the Kremlins greatest allies in tearing this nation down. They, the Dems, are fricking traitors
Well, to be fair, the Dems have been the Kremlin's greatest ally for nearly 100 years.
The thing that pissed Democrats off more than anything in 2016, is the fact that this was the first time in nearly 100 years that Russia didn't actively support the Democrati candidate.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:52 am to Bunyan
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The FBI obtained a FISA warrant in OCTOBER 2016 with the bulk of information being the Steele dossier. If verification efforts didn't begin until January then why did the FBI swear the everything in the application was accurate and verified??
It seems like everyone is forgetting that they tried to get a FISA warrant in May 2016. It was one of the .1% of FISA warrants that was denied.
What Barr needs to look at is the May 6, 2016 FISA warrant application. If the only thing that was added to the October 2016 application was the dossier, then we know why the sHitlary campaign and the FBI paid for this fake dossier in the first place – to get them the FISA warrant that was denied in May 2016 to spy on the Trump campaign
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:56 am to MMauler
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It seems like everyone is forgetting that they tried to get a FISA warrant in May 2016. It was one of the .1% of FISA warrants that was denied.
I think Carter Page is the key to this. I think Carter Page was their Trojan horse guy, and they sent him into the Trump campaign with a FISA warrant on him so he could get incidental collection on the campaign.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 8:59 am to MMauler
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If the only thing that was added to the October 2016 application was the dossier, then we know why the sHitlary campaign and the FBI paid for this fake dossier in the first place – to get them the FISA warrant that was denied in May 2016 to spy on the Trump campaign
Good point. And I would highly suspect that to be true
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:09 am to MrCarton
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Dude, I accept views that make sense and have supporting evidence
No you dont
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:10 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Don JR met with a longtime friend who setup the meeting saying he had someone with dirt on hillary. The Russian ends up doing nothing but talk about Maginsky Act.
Hillary AND the FBI pay millions of dollars to a BRITISH Spy (who the fbi had previously concluded wasnt reliable). That BRITISH former spy paid money to RUSSIANS for their “stories”. Did nothing to verify or provide evidence. That compiled dossier of various fiction stories was then leaked tothe Press so that the oress story could be used as support for the dossier. Which resulted in a fisa warrant to surveill an american presidential campaign.
One of these is not like the other.
Hillary AND the FBI pay millions of dollars to a BRITISH Spy (who the fbi had previously concluded wasnt reliable). That BRITISH former spy paid money to RUSSIANS for their “stories”. Did nothing to verify or provide evidence. That compiled dossier of various fiction stories was then leaked tothe Press so that the oress story could be used as support for the dossier. Which resulted in a fisa warrant to surveill an american presidential campaign.
One of these is not like the other.
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