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DIA pdfs below

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Warp Drive, Dark Energy, and the Manipulation of Extra Dimensions

Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum Engineering


https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document_dev/2018/05/04/Warp_Drive_Dark_Energy_1525479960070_41686974_ver1.0.pdf

https://media.lasvegasnow.com/nxsglobal/lasvegasnow/document_dev/2018/05/04/Advanced_Space_Propulsion_1525479713208_41686961_ver1.0.pdf



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And today:

https://theconversation.com/bizarre-dark-fluid-with-negative-mass-could-dominate-the-universe-what-my-research-suggests-107922

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Bizarre ‘dark fluid’ with negative mass could dominate the universe – what my research suggests

Jamie Farnes, Research Associate & Astrophysicist based at Oxford's e-Research Centre, University of Oxford
The Conversation
December 5, 2018, 12:03 AM CST



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It’s embarrassing, but astrophysicists are the first to admit it. Our best theoretical model can only explain 5% of the universe. The remaining 95% is famously made up almost entirely of invisible, unknown material dubbed dark energy and dark matter. So even though there are a billion trillion stars in the observable universe, they are actually extremely rare.

The two mysterious dark substances can only be inferred from gravitational effects. Dark matter may be an invisible material, but it exerts a gravitational force on surrounding matter that we can measure. Dark energy is a repulsive force that makes the universe expand at an accelerating rate. The two have always been treated as separate phenomena. But my new study, published in Astronomy and Astrophysics, suggests they may both be part of the same strange concept – a single, unified “dark fluid” of negative masses.

Negative masses are a hypothetical form of matter that would have a type of negative gravity – repelling all other material around them. Unlike familiar positive mass matter, if a negative mass was pushed, it would accelerate towards you rather than away from you.


The DIA documents above discussed this in 2010 (along with applications for propolusion...)


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Claim: Apollo 17, 18 missions failed...Apollo 20 was successful
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We on Apollo 20 in August 1976 put our lander down on the moon at a site first aerially photographed by Apollo 15 in July to August 1971. It showed a huge cigar-shaped space ship about 3 miles long. That’s what we investigated.

Lots of clown presence around this guy...Naval Academy, Air Force confirmed...NASA not confirmed

...claims skirmishes with EBEs, gray alien abductions, etc.


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Full vid of Bob sketching out the propulsion system:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VOQl4HXQU9E

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Bob lazar the Scientist #8

COSMIC CONNECTION37 views



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Compare with this:

https://silvarecord.com/2018/12/06/rotating-tilting-craft-lazar-the-gimble/

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Rotating & Tilting Craft, Lazar & The Gimbal
DECEMBER 6, 2018


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The original Bob Lazar and Area 51 story broke in the late 80s thanks to George Knapp. Now there has been a re-emergence of Bob Lazar and his claims because of Jeremy Corbell’s film Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers. Many interesting points have been brought up in the debate over Lazar’s legitimacy. Everything Mr. Lazar has said since he first came out to the world is being scrutinized, and rightly so in any whistle blower situation. While breaking down aspects of the overall picture, I’ve found myself highlighting the ideas I consider most compelling. Especially themes that seem to match with what we have been hearing from TTSA, AATIP and AAWSAP members and scientists. One of these matches could be Lazar’s description of the craft being inside a gravitational wave and how TTSA speak about engineering the space time metric. These theories may not be scientifically exact, but both seem to describe the same effect, sparing the occupants from inertia.


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“Well, the craft generates its own gravitational field. Being inside that field essentially doesn’t shield you, but essentially you’re in, and this is a terrible way to say it, almost in a different realm because you’re now influenced only by that gravitational field. For instance people wonder about how a craft like this can make a turn at such high speed, a 90 degree turn, when they would imagine people slamming up against the wall or something to that effect. Well that really wouldn’t happen. Inertia would have no effect. You’re in a distortion, and don’t forget that gravity distorts time and space, so really nothing is going to influence you while you’re in there.” – Bob Lazar


Lazar posited that gravity was a wave in the 80s (only recently proved by disclosed science)

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Another very interesting thought I’ve heard brought up over time, and most recently submitted anonymously to SilvaRecord.com, is the connection between Bob Lazar’s tilted craft comments and the Gimbal video that seems to show (prove?) that UFOs/UAP DO INDEED ROTATE/TILT! The Gimbal video showing the rotation, and featuring the flabbergasted voice of the jet fighter pilot describing the movement, is riveting evidence viewed millions of times in the past year since it was released. Bob Lazar speaking about why the Craft need to tilt almost thirty years ago may be among the most compelling of his claims to now be given credence.


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The way in which it gets propelled… are two different ways; there’s what they call “omicron configuration” where the craft is using one generator or a “delta configuration” where it’s utilizing all three. Delta configuration would be for space travel. Essentially the craft will tilt up on it’s side, as opposed to a science fiction movie where you see a flying saucer moving around, the craft will tilt up on it’s side, focus the three gravity generators to a single point, and move through space that way.”


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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1uLwUTDA0&feature=youtu.be

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Gimbal: The First Official UAP Footage from the USG for Public Release
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Exclusive analysis brought to you by To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science. Gimbal is the first of three US military videos of unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) that has been through the official declassification review process of the United States government and has been approved for public release. This footage, and all official USG footage you will see on TTS Academy’s community of interest (COI), comes with essential chain-of-custody documentation validating that it is received in its original and unaltered form and is authentic. The US Department of Defense uses this process in order to meticulously ensure that information and material retain their integrity without revealing sources and methods. This documentation is what sets this footage apart from anything else that has made its way to the public domain, by establishing its authenticity and thereby giving it enormous historical significance.


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Luis Elizondo also mentioned the rotation in his most recent presentation at the CUN conference:

“…a complete ninety degree angle. That object should not be able to do that. That object should fall out of the sky, and you’re only seeing part of that video. The rest of that video remains very sensitive.”


There are rumblings that we will get more footage in early 2019
Stay tuned. Interesting times ahead...


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We are supposed to see some more releases between now and March...

http://www.ufojoe.net/?p=596

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New Tic Tac Witnesses Surface. Plus, Is “The Nimitz Encounters” Film Accurate? 29 DEC , 2018


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Unless you’ve been living under a rock lately, you’ve seen the excellent, short film, “The Nimitz Encounters,” by filmmaker Dave Beaty. I’ve known Dave since the late 80s when we worked alongside each other as videographers/editors for WINK-TV News in Ft. Myers, Florida. When the station needed something to look extra nice, they assigned Dave. For the past 25 years, he’s spent his time as a researcher and TV producer for national cable and PBS documentaries and was bestowed with five Emmys related to that work. At the end of this article, I’ll include a more complete version of Dave’s resume.


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Dave Beaty’s Expanded Resume: TV Producer, Researcher, Writer, Expert in UAV cinematography, editing, sound design, motion graphics & 3d graphics. Aviation History Documentaries, 25+ years in the production industry including national shows on Travel Channel, History Channel and PBS. Career origins span 30 years in journalism, film, computer graphics and electronic music. Achievements in both documentary and entertainment programs: Emmy Award for craft camera on The Travel Channel’s, “Waters Edge The Bahamas”, and in 1999 received a Emmy Award for editing of the PBS documentary, “Children of the Fourth World”. In 2000 received a Monitor Award for “Uncommon Friends of the 20th Century”. Cable Ace nomination for network programming includes Travel Channel’s “Freeze Frame” series and “Wildlife Encounters In Alaska”, History Channel’s “Fireboats of 9/11” and “The Nazi Plan to Bomb New York”. In 2007 I co-produced the Emmy nominated “Pope John Paul: A Saint for Our Times” for PBS and in 2008 co-produced Emmy Winning doc “Under the Sea With Al Giddings”. Co-produced the 2015 bio-epic “Queen of Swing” on PBS I have also worked on feature segments for Inside Edition, America’s Most Wanted, CBS, FOX, MLB, Animal Planet and Home & Garden Television just to name a few.


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In addition to documenting the event with a re-creation, which BTW is almost a 1:1 match to the Nimitz sighting description in the NYT article, I wanted to offer military witnesses of unknown aerial phenomena a place to contact me anonymously, to create another group of witnesses that will help bolster the official government and military witness testimony for future disclosure efforts. In the week since it’s release I have been contacted by former service members offering descriptions of UAP sightings such as these: A Radar Tech aboard a US Aircraft Carrier off the coast of Japan tracked an anomalous object on high resolution radar, and later went outside to see the same object with this own eyes.

Another sighting in 1969 by a radio telegraph operator from the US Navy decoded a secret message stating a ship off Alaska reported, “the crew visually witnessed off the port bow of the ship, emerging out of the ocean was a brightly glowing reddish orange elliptical unidentified object, approximately 70 feet in diameter. It emerged out of the ocean and immediately shot straight up into space. The object was tracked on ships radar to be traveling at an estimated 7,000 mph.”


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The first witness, his name is Jason Turner. He was on the USS Princeton in November of 2004 and he wasn’t in the Combat Information Center, sitting behind a radar screen. Actually, he worked in the ship’s store and medical department as a Petty Officer, I guess. But, of course, everybody on that ship knew what was going on that next day or whatever. And he had a buddy that worked in the…I guess it would be in one of the intel spaces on the ship. He was like a cryptographic technician, something like that. And he invited Jason…he’s like, ‘Hey, you’ve gotta see this video cause we have it on our console.’ He had clearance to go into that area of the ship called the SSES – the Ship’s Signals Exploitation Space – where these consoles were that they used for…storing intel. And he showed him this FLIR video. And it is the video that we have a copy of. But Jason says that the video he saw…was much higher quality, much higher resolution. And he said that it was much longer. “The video that we have is about one minute, seventeen seconds. And the one he saw was seven to ten minutes in length. And I said, ‘Well, was there anything cool on it? Or is it just this white blob in the center of he screen like we have?’ And he said, ‘No.’ He goes, ‘This thing was being chased by the jet and it did a ninety-degree turn, which you could see.’ And he said it just took off like hyper-sonic, out of the frame. And I go, ‘Well, is that in the video that we have?’ He goes, ‘No, you don’t see that in the FLIR video we have.’ But it was on this original one that he saw. So, somewhere that’s out there, this ten-minute FLIR video.


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Old business:

https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/04/the-aliens-are-worried-says-the-president-of-the-eu-commission/

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Published on Jul, 4, 2016
VIDEO: The aliens are worried, says the President of the EU Commission


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Although (or perhaps precisely because) we’re not a UFO site, unlike the mainstream media, all of whom are pointedly ignoring Jean-Claude Juncker’s recent statement to the EU Parliament concerning his discussions with alien leaders [sic], we think it right to inform the public of this aspect of the bizarre goings-on in Brussels, too.


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The transcript at the European Union website is deliberately inaccurate. In the video above, Juncker is heard very clearly referring to “plusieurs des dirigeants d’autres planètes” — the only possible accurate translation of which is “several leaders of other planets.” The official transcript omits “d’autres planètes” and has him simply talking with “plusieurs des dirigeants,” the English equivalent of which phrase is “several executives”. [Aware of the possibility of a hoax, I have watched the video carefully to check whether the movement of Juncker’s lips corresponds with the audio of him saying “d’autres planètes”; I have not been able to detect any discrepancy between the visual and the auditory aspects of the speech.]

Here’s the full French transcript, followed by the English translation, of what Merkel’s protegé and EU Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker said to the European Parliament on June 28 about aliens’ anxieties following the Brexit vote in the UK:

“Il faut savoir que ceux qui nous observent de loin, sont inquiets. J’ai vue et entendue et écouté plusieurs des dirigeants d’autres planètes. Ils sont très inquiets parce qu’ils s’interrogent sur la voie que l’union européenne vas poursuivre. Donc il faut rassurer et les européens et ceux qui nous observent de plus loin”

“You should know that those who observe us from afar, are worried. I have seen and heard and listened to several leaders of other planets. They are very worried because they’re wondering which way the European Union is going. So we have to reassure both the Europeans and those who observe us from further away.”


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Happy 2019 to those who follow this thread

Below is an interesting worldview we are heading into:

It gets to the bigger topics of materialism, reality, consciousness,etc. These basics ground societal and political machinations. Any change in these topics would be very disruptive to the current societal constructs.

Under the current model:

You are a meat machine in a mechanical like universe. Your brain makes conciousness. You live, you die. Your life is meaningless. Acquire as much money, stuff as you can. There is no god. It is all random. Gravity is the key to celestial mechanics

Under the post materialist model:

You are part of a connected system. Consciousness is non-local. Consciousness is eternal. This is just one part of an eternal journey. You / we are part of of a broader plan that has been designed for us. Electromagnetism is the key to celestial mechanics.

http://opensciences.org/files/pdfs/Manifesto-for-a-Post-Materialist-Science.pdf

15. According to the post-materialist paradigm:
a) Mind represents an aspect of reality as primordial as the physical world. Mind is fundamental
in the universe, i.e. it cannot be derived from matter and reduced to anything more basic.
b) There is a deep interconnectedness between mind and the physical world.
c) Mind (will/intention) can influence the state of the physical world, and operate in a nonlocal (or extended) fashion, i.e. it is not confined to specific points in space, such as brains and bodies, nor to specific points in time, such as the present. Since the mind may nonlocally influence the physical world, the intentions, emotions, and desires of an experimenter may not be completely isolated from experimental outcomes, even in controlled and blinded experimental designs.
d) Minds are apparently unbounded, and may unite in ways suggesting a unitary, One Mind that includes all individual, single minds.
e) NDEs in cardiac arrest suggest that the brain acts as a transceiver of mental activity, i.e. the mind can work through the brain, but is not produced by it. NDEs occurring in cardiac arrest, coupled with evidence from research mediums, further suggest the survival of consciousness, following bodily death, and the existence of other levels of reality that are non-physical.
f) Scientists should not be afraid to investigate spirituality and spiritual experiences since they represent a central aspect of human existence.
16. Post-materialist science does not reject the empirical observations and great value of scientific achievements realized up until now. It seeks to expand the human capacity to better understand the wonders of nature, and in the process rediscover the importance of mind and spirit as being part of the core fabric of the universe. Post-materialism is inclusive of matter, which is seen as a basic constituent of the universe.
17. The post-materialist paradigm has far-reaching implications. It fundamentally alters the vision we have of ourselves, giving us back our dignity and power, as humans and as scientists. This paradigm fosters positive values such as compassion, respect, and peace. By emphasizing a deep connection between ourselves and nature at large, the post-materialist paradigm also promotes environmental awareness and the preservation of our biosphere. In addition, it is not new, but only forgotten for four hundred years, that a lived transmaterial understanding may be the cornerstone of health and wellness, as it has been held and preserved in ancient mind-body-spirit practices, religious traditions, and contemplative approaches.
18. The shift from materialist science to post-materialist science may be of vital importance to the evolution of the
human civilization. It may be even more pivotal than the transition from
geocentrism to heliocentrism
.



Apply this model to:

-the poorly understood “exotic” propulsion systems discussed here

-the acknowledgment of perhaps only a limited understanding of physics/reality(explore the Electric universe model)

-the current work of one of the authors of The NY Times piece in the OP

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The current uniformitarian path from the church of progress that we are on will lead us to fusion with material at some point (transhumanism/ AI). I do not feel this is the way

The post materialism view is actually a throwback to an ancient way to view life. It will force us to restructure society and rethink much of what we believe about prior human history...

Safe travels to all...
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explore the Electric universe mode


Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPpR8t1qvk

Wal Thornhill: Blockbuster – Saturn/Earth Connection Confirmed | Space News

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A new scientific paper provides stunning affirmation of one of the most striking predictions of the Electric Universe/catastrophist hypothesis. The paper, published in the Journal Icarus, reports that the water on Saturn’s moons and in its rings is remarkably similar to water on our own planet, a completely unexpected finding for planetary scientists.

As surprising as this connection between Saturn and Earth is for planetary scientists, the connection was in fact explicitly predicted by one of the great scientific heretics of the 20th century. Nearly three-quarters of a century ago, Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky proposed that within human memory, a period of chaos reigned in the inner solar system. In this scenario, one of the migrating planets was Saturn, and it was Velikovsky’s seemingly outrageous thesis that the water in Earth’s oceans came from the gas giant. In part one of this two part presentation, physicist Wal Thornhill outlines the incredible and ongoing predictive success of the electric universe/catastrophist paradigm.

https://phys.org/news/2018-12-saturn-satellites-earth-moon-phoebe.html

The water in Saturn's rings and satellites is like that on Earth except for moon Phoebe, which is out of this world

December 3, 2018, Planetary Science Institute

By developing a new method for measuring isotopic ratios of water and carbon dioxide remotely, scientists have found that the water in Saturn's rings and satellites is unexpectedly like water on the Earth, except on Saturn's moon Phoebe, where the water is more unusual than on any other object so far studied in the Solar System.

The results, found in the Icarus paper "Isotopic Ratios of Saturn's Rings and Satellites: Implications for the Origin of Water and Phoebe" by Planetary Science Institute Senior Scientist Roger N. Clark, also mean *we need to change models of the formation of the Solar System because the new results are in conflict with existing models. *Robert H. Brown (U. Arizona), Dale P. Cruikshank (NASA), and Gregg A. Swayze (USGS) are co-authors.

The Saturn system D/H values close to the Earth's values imply a similar water source for the inner and outer Solar System, and new models need to be developed where the change from inner to outer Solar System is less.


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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6fjcPguafug

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Wal Thornhill: The Saturn/Earth Connection and Our Place in the Universe | Space News
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In part one of this presentation, physicist Wal Thornhill began his analysis of one of the most significant space discoveries in recent memory. The history and origin of the gas giant Saturn, and indeed the entire solar system, including our own planet is not what we’ve been told. Planetary scientists recently made the astonishing discovery that water in Saturn’s satellites and rings is remarkably similar to the water on Earth. As Thornhill explained, this discovery was explicitly predicted nearly three quarters of a century ago, by the scientific heretic Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky. In this episode, Thornhill outlines his own successful predictions for discoveries in the Saturnian system, including Saturn's moon Titan. Part one of this two-part presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkPpR...




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Some worship cataclysm / catastrophe...
The symbols are representative of the astrological visions that were seen during the cataclysm (electrical phenomenon)

As such, these folks do as they please (decadence, hedonism, etc...)
All in the name of Saturn

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY

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Symbols of an Alien Sky (Full Documentary)
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Here we offer David Talbott's first glimpses of celestial dramas in ancient times. Just a few thousand years ago a gathering of planets hung as towering forms in the ancient sky close to the earth, provoking spectacular electric discharge formations above our forebears and inspiring the vast complex of world myths and symbols. See the next two full documentaries in the Symbols of an Alien Sky series: Episode 2, Symbols of an Alien Sky: The Lightning-Scarred Planet, Mars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRV1e... Episode 3, Symbols of an Alien Sky: The Electric Comet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wtt...



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tRV1e5_tB6Y

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Episode 2 Symbols of an Alien Sky: The Lightning Scarred Planet, Mars (Full Documentary) ThunderboltsProject960,457 views 6.9K 503
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Year by year the evidence for global electric scarring of Mars continues to grow. Bringing the facts to public attention will be among our highest priorities in coming months. Note: all of the Mars imagery involves actual maps from Google Mars. In Episode 2 Symbols of an Alien Sky: The Lightning Scarred Planet, Mars, David Talbott takes the viewer on an odyssey across the surface of Mars. Exploring feature after feature of the planet, he finds that only electric arcs could produce the observed patterns. The high resolution images reveal massive channels and gouges, great mounds, and crater chains, none finding an explanation in traditional geology but all matching the scars from electric discharge experiments in the laboratory. As a scientific follow-up to Symbols of an Alien Sky, this documentary provides a definitive answer to the question: was Mars carved from pole to pole by intense interplanetary discharge? Errata: The volume of Valles Marineris is estimated by the USGS (2002) to be .92 million cubic miles (3.86 million cubic kilometers).


Multiple parts
Watch it all...

Keep this in mind while watching...

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Think in fractals


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The USS Nimitz stuff is fascinating. BTW: I enjoyed our convo in the OT thread. Someone must have taken my comments--> as related to me directly; by flaming me today and calling me a menopausal crazy cat lady. It is a shame people can't discuss freely w/o presumptions from trouble making individuals.


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The mother of this new NASA official is a politician who made waves for revealing her alien abduction story


https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/bettina-incl-n-named-to-head-nasa-office-of-communications

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Dec. 17, 2018 RELEASE 18-118
Bettina Inclán Named to Head NASA Office of Communications


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Bettina Inclán has been named by Administrator Jim Bridenstine to be NASA’s Associate Administrator for Communications. Inclán comes to NASA with over 15 years of experience as a communications specialist and strategist -- building winning coalitions and crafting messages and crisis communications in the political, commercial and nonprofit spheres. She has worked with major technology firms and non-profit organizations, and has held senior roles with government leaders at the federal, state and local levels, including governors and within the U.S. House of Representatives. “Telling NASA’s story and engaging the public in our incredible work is essential to making it successful,” Bridenstine said. “Ms. Inclán has demonstrated the communications skills and savvy to help our great agency build on its legacy and take advantage of the many opportunities ahead to inspire the next generation and involve our entire nation in the bright future we’re creating.”


https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/12/nasa-appoints-exec-with-alien-abductee-and-space-force-connections/

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NASA Appoints Exec With Alien Abductee and Space Force Connections
Paul Seaburn December 27, 2018


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Is NASA getting ready for some kind of disclosure of what it and the U.S. government know about aliens, UFOs and the other stuff conspiracy theorists believe is hidden in real X-files? Here’s a sign the answer may finally be yes – the agency announced last week the hiring of a communications department executive whose mother claims to be an alien abductee and recently ran for Congress. Couple that with her connection to another announcement last week that the Pentagon is putting plans in place for the president’s Space Force and the Christmas wishes of conspiracy theorists may be coming true … whether they believe in Santa or are just marginal about it


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Did her mom’s revelations help Inclán get her job with NASA? It didn’t hurt … nor did the fact that her brother-in-law is Jarrod Agen, Deputy chief of staff and communications director for Vice President Mike Pence


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alien-abductee-mom-in-high-stakes-run-for-congress

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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Published October 16, 2017
'Alien abductee' mom in high-stakes run for Congress
By | Fox News


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Real aliens – as in saucer-flying extraterrestrials – supposedly took her into their spacecraft and talked to her “about a series of things that would happen,” she recounted in two TV interviews posted on YouTube.


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Aguilera -- the mother of Bettina Inclan Agen, former Republican National Committee Hispanic outreach director, and mother-in-law of Jarrod Agen, Vice President Pence’s deputy chief of staff -- said the ET visits began when she was 7 years old.

The aliens appeared before her and “telepathically” told her to walk outside. Then they took her into their spaceship and spoke to her about events that would happen, she says. They supposedly told her about ISIS – though she wouldn’t give specific details – and that the world’s energy is in Africa and that God is a universal energy.


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New show coming out in a week or so about Project Blue Book.
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This same damn thread has been posts no less then 5-6 times in the last few months. Please use the search function...


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Never heard of this Emenegger guy but I just watched Close Encounters of the Third Kind tonight and now I'm wondering if any of it could be based on true events.


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Never heard of this Emenegger guy but I just watched Close Encounters of the Third Kind tonight and now I'm wondering if any of it could be based on true events.



I came across this in the past also

The principle of synchronicities is also presented in that film. It is supposed to depict some aspects of “the phenomenon”. Also note the false flags and symbolism in the movie.

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https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/06/spielberg-close-encounters-and-conspiracy-theories/

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Spielberg, Close Encounters, and Conspiracy Theories


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I wouldn’t put it past this government that a cosmic Watergate has been underway for the last 25 years,” the director remarked during a Close Encounters promotional interview, “eventually they might want to tell us something about what they’ve discovered over the decades.” During the same interview, the director spoke with relish of “rumours” that President Carter was due to make “some unsettling disclosures” about UFOs later that year. Needless to say, no such disclosures were forthcoming.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmw3UAfgC0&feature=youtu.be

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Steven Spielberg talks about Close Encounters and UFOs
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Published on Dec 8, 2009
Steven Spielberg talks about Close Encounters and UFOs in a 1977 interview.


Look at the films he has made...


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Nimitz pilot interviewed by another pilot

He speculates that the tech was off world and would revolutionize humanity...

https://silvarecord.com/2019/01/03/a-square-that-has-an-aura-around-it-dave-fravor/

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A Square That Has An Aura Around It” – Dave Fravor JANUARY 3, 2019 COMMEN


Fravor also describes multiple objects (10) picked up on radar that would “drop down” from above 80,000ft, hang out, and go back up. The Tic Tac they engaged was only 1 of these objects that was picked up over a 2 week stretch.

They engaged the Tic Tac off the coast of Mexico
Fravor talks about a prior engagement by the Mexican Air Force in the podcast:

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Rk9cpykwU

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Mexico UFO - Mexican Air Force UFO Sighting
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Published on Feb 13, 2011

On March 05, 2004, The Mexican Air Force witnessed 11 flying objects flying along side of them during an air patrol of a drug smuggling. The eleven UFO (unidentified flying objects) could only be seen through the military plane's dome mounted IR-system (infrared), and could not be seen with the naked eye. Neither the crew, nor ground personel could see the craft with radar. Skeptics have dismissed this as oil platform burn-off flares, but the Mexican military stated that the elevation of the lights was clocked at a higher altitude than theirs. Also, the Mexican Air Force stated they were chasing something, and it disappeared right as the lights appeared. This is a very significant event, mainly because it's the first time a government encounter has come forth publicly. This could be the start of a movement to force the U.S. to come center stage with their findings.


Below is from the linked site:



The following points are pieces of information from the podcast. I'm sure that someone will provide us all with a transcript of the whole interview, but there are some interesting new pieces of data.

* Fravor and his aircrew never signed any non disclosure agreements.

* One day late last year he received a phone call from the other pilot who flew with him that day of 14 November 2004. This other pilot, asked Fravor if he had talked about the tic tac incident lately? The other pilot said that they had been interviewed by the Pentagon about five times of late. Fravor told the other pilot to give the Pentagon people his name and they should give him a call.

Note: To read a detailed statement by the second pilot, published by the To The Stars Academy, click here.

* Fravor then spoke to Luis Elizondo, after Elizondo left the Pentagon. Elizondo asked Fravor to be involved with a piece that the New York Times were researching. Initially Fravor said n, then agreed. Fravor met with Leslie Keane and Helene Cooper and told them his story.

* Then the New York Times article came out, 16 December 2017 electronically, followed the next day by the print version. He received calls from numerous media outlets.

* Fravor stated that he had both the radar tape and the FLIR video copied and put in a safe for safe keeping. However, later when the exercises had finished, somehow both copies went missing.

* Fravor then mentioned that when he was briefing the second flight crew that day, one of the other pilots said that they would see if they could video the tic tac. This was the pilot who took the FLIR video which has been circulating since 16 December 2017. Fravor openly stated that this pilot's name was Chad "nuts" Underwood.

* Fravor mentioned that in 2008 the guy who had been his WSO on the 14 November 2004 tic tac flight, had contacted him to tell him that the FLIR video was on a website. Fravor said that the FLIR video then appeared on Youtube but this version had since disappeared from there.

Around the same time, in 2008, "Cheeks had called me at the same time and said hey we are doing some stuff and we have a client that likes to investigate stuff like this, can we do it? I said, yeh, yeh, yeh. I had another friend that I had talked to because of the phone call that was prompted by Cheeks. I was talking to her, and..,said is there anything you can find out?...About a month later, got a call from a guy said hey we are going to investigate this thing. So they actually did. There's a report that just got released, that Harry Reid released, the former Senator from Nevada, that was actually, I like to call it the unofficial, official report - wasn't an official report just done to capture some of this...actually pretty well done, there are a few inaccuracies in it...it was five years after the event."

Note: "Cheeks" was the call-sign of then Lt Col Douglas S Kurth, pilot and Commanding Officer of Marine Hornet Squadron VM-232. Kurth went to work for Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, in December 2007. It was Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies who received the contract from the Defense Intelligence Agency in September 2008 to work on the Agency's Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program.

* The pilot who took the FLIR video, Chad "nuts" Underwood deliberately went through all the FLIR modes; both TV and infra-red when he took the video. Fravor stated that he saw the high definition version of the FLIR video, shortly after it was taken.

* Asked by the interviewer, "what did you see that day?" Fravor stated he didn't know. But that we have nothing that reacts that quickly in terms of maneuvers.

* Fravor then mentioned a 2015, off the East Coast of the US incident. Fravor stated that there were NOTAMS issued that there were objects out there at that time. "One of the airplanes in the squadron almost hit one. Went 100 feet down the side. They were in section and it went down the side, and they came back and said it looks like a ball with a cube inside of it, like a square that has an aura round it..."

Note: The last details are completely new to me. I have never heard of the near miss incident before.


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So Elon Musk tweeted a moon/alien meme yesterday afternoon...

We have touched on the importance of Greek mythology earlier in the thread.
See the article at the bottom of the post

Will hold of on further speculation, but let’s just say I will be very curious to see what the Chinese find on the moon...

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/01/04/elon-musk-sets-tone-for-teslas-2019-with-sarcastic-alien-conspiracy-meme/

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Elon Musk Sets Tone for Tesla’s 2019 with Sarcastic Alien Conspiracy Meme


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SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk posted a meme on Twitter accusing Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon, of being an alien. The meme, which Musk posted on Thursday, declared, “Neil Armstrong was the first person to land on the moon. ‘Neil A.’ Backwards is ‘Alien’,” and received nearly 500,000 likes and over 100,000 retweets.



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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/12/immanuel-velikovsky/the-earth-without-the-moon/

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The Earth Without the Moon By Immanuel Velikovsky
December 3, 2011


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The period when the Earth was Moonless is probably the most remote recollection of mankind. Democritus and Anaxagoras taught that there was a time when the Earth was without the Moon.(1) Aristotle wrote that Arcadia in Greece, before being inhabited by the Hellenes, had a population of Pelasgians, and that these aborigines occupied the land already before there was a moon in the sky above the Earth; for this reason they were called Proselenes.(2)

Apollonius of Rhodes mentioned the time “when not all the orbs were yet in the heavens, before the Danai and Deukalion races came into existence, and only the Arcadians lived, of whom it is said that they dwelt on mountains and fed on acorns, before there was a moon.” (3) Plutarch wrote in The Roman Questions: “There were Arcadians of Evander’s following, the so-called pre-Lunar people.”(4) Similarly wrote Ovid: “The Arcadians are said to have possessed their land before the birth of Jove, and the folk is older than the Moon.” (5) Hippolytus refers to a legend that “Arcadia brought forth Pelasgus, of greater antiquity than the moon.”(6) Lucian in his Astrology says that “the Arcadians affirm in their folly that they are older than the moon.”(7) Censorinus also alludes to the time in the past when there was no moon in the sky.(8) Some allusions to the time before there was a Moon may be found also in the Scriptures. In Job 25:5 the grandeur of the Lord who “Makes peace in the heights” is praised and the time is mentioned “before [there was] a moon and it did not shine.” Also in Psalm 72:5 it is said: “Thou wast feared since [the time of] the sun and before [the time of] the moon, a generation of generations.” A “generation of generations” means a very long time. Of course, it is of no use to counter this psalm with the myth of the first chapter of Genesis, a tale brought down from exotic and later sources.

The memory of a world without a moon lives in oral tradition among the Indians. The Indians of the Bogota highlands in the eastern Cordilleras of Colombia relate some of their tribal reminiscences to the time before there was a moon. “In the earliest times, when the moon was not yet in the heavens,” say the tribesmen of Chibchas.(9)


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The variations in the position of the Moon can be read in the variations in the length of the month. The length of the month repeatedly changed in subseqent catastrophic events – and for this there exists a large amount of supporting evidence. In these later occurrences the Moon played a passive role, and Zeus in the Iliad advised it (Aphrodite) to stay out of the battle in which Athene and Ares (Venus and Mars) were the main contestants.


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