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re: NY Times: Pentagon’s UFO Program - aerospace/esoteric/quantum mechanics/future

Posted on 6/9/18 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by DeadHeadTiger
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Posted on 6/9/18 at 8:45 pm to
Rabid, they will come for you.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/9/18 at 8:46 pm to
Huff Post

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WEIRD NEWS 01/23/2014 08:00 am ET
Updated Dec 06, 2017

Tall White Nazi Space Aliens Are Not — We Repeat NOT — Invading
headshot By Lee Speigel


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The craziest story to emerge from the Edward Snowden leaked documents affair probably has nothing to do with Edward Snowden ... or reality. According to a story posted by Iran’s Fars News Agency, the U.S. government has been under the control of a shadow government overseen by extraterrestrials who helped Nazi Germany’s rise in the 1930s.

The news agency story suggests that documents revealed by Snowden are part of a Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) report which states the information provides “incontrovertible proof that an alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda is driving U.S. domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since 1945.


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Hellyer, 90, was Canada’s minister of defense during the 1960s. After his retirement, he became the first cabinet-level politician from a G8 country to go on the record claiming that extraterrestrials are already on Earth. On the “SophieCo” program, Hellyer was outspoken about Earth’s interaction with many extraterrestrials, including a race of “Tall Whites” that are allegedly mentioned in Snowden’s documents.


Weird stuff

Hail hydra...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:53 pm to
LINK

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Trump orders creation of independent space force

By: Valerie Insinna 29 minutes ago


Make space great again...
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:56 pm to
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Pentagon Announces First-Ever Audit Of The Department Of Defense



Yeah that'll happen
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:57 pm to
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No.. Podesta really is an alien-disclosure guy. He loves that shite. He's a weird fricker though.


If you worship Aliens instead of God, it is probably easy to justify eating and fricking kids.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:43 pm to
Missing money angle...

LINQ

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Ron Paul: Here's 21 Trillion Reasons To Question The Role Of Government In America


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Via Ron Paul's Facebook page, The U.S. military budget dwarfs every other country on the planet combined.



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Twenty-one trillion dollars.

The Pentagon’s own numbers show that it can’t account for $21 trillion. Yes, I mean trillion with a “T.” And this could change everything. But I’ll get back to that in a moment. There are certain things the human mind is not meant to do. Our complex brains cannot view the world in infrared, cannot spell words backward during orgasm and cannot really grasp numbers over a few thousand. A few thousand, we can feel and conceptualize. We’ve all been in stadiums with several thousand people. We have an idea of what that looks like (and how sticky the floor gets). But when we get into the millions, we lose it. It becomes a fog of nonsense. Visualizing it feels like trying to hug a memory. We may know what $1 million can buy (and we may want that thing), but you probably don’t know how tall a stack of a million $1 bills is. You probably don’t know how long it takes a minimum-wage employee to make $1 million. That’s why trying to understand—truly understand—that the Pentagon spent 21 trillion unaccounted-for dollars between 1998 and 2015 washes over us like your mother telling you that your third cousin you met twice is getting divorced. It seems vaguely upsetting, but you forget about it 15 seconds later because … what else is there to do?

Twenty-one trillion.

But let’s get back to the beginning. A couple of years ago, Mark Skidmore, an economics professor, heard Catherine Austin Fitts, former assistant secretary in the Department of Housing and Urban Development, say that the Department of Defense Office of Inspector General had found $6.5 trillion worth of unaccounted-for spending in 2015. Skidmore, being an economics professor, thought something like, “She means $6.5 billion. Not trillion. Because trillion would mean the Pentagon couldn’t account for more money than the gross domestic product of the whole United Kingdom. But still, $6.5 billion of unaccounted-for money is a crazy amount.” So he went and looked at the inspector general’s report, and he found something interesting: It was trillion! It was fricking $6.5 trillion in 2015 of unaccounted-for spending! And I’m sorry for the cursing, but the word “trillion” is legally obligated to be prefaced with “fricking.” It is indeed way more than the U.K.’s GDP.


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Let’s stop and take a second to conceive how much $21 trillion is (which you can’t because our brains short-circuit, but we’ll try anyway).
1. The amount of money supposedly in the stock market is $30 trillion.
2. The GDP of the United States is $18.6 trillion.
3. Picture a stack of money. Now imagine that that stack of dollars is all $1,000 bills. Each bill says “$1,000” on it. How high do you imagine that stack of dollars would be if it were $1 trillion. It would be 63 miles high.
4. Imagine you make $40,000 a year. How long would it take you to make $1 trillion? Well, don’t sign up for this task, because it would take you 25 million years (which sounds like a long time, but I hear that the last 10 million really fly by because you already know your way around the office, where the coffee machine is, etc.).

The human brain is not meant to think about a trillion dollars.


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But if the American people truly understood this number, it would change both the country and the world. It means that the dollar is sprinting down a path toward worthless. If the Pentagon is hiding spending that dwarfs the amount of tax dollars coming in to the federal government, then it’s clear the government is printing however much it wants and thinking there are no consequences. Once these trillions are considered, our fiat currency has even less meaning than it already does, and it’s only a matter of time before inflation runs wild. It also means that any time our government says it “doesn’t have money” for a project, it’s laughable. It can clearly “create” as much as it wants for bombing and death. This would explain how Donald Trump’s military can drop well over 100 bombs a day that cost well north of $1 million each. So why can’t our government also “create” endless money for health care, education, the homeless, veterans benefits and the elderly, to make all parking free and to pay the Rolling Stones to play stoop-front shows in my neighborhood? (I’m sure the Rolling Stones are expensive, but surely a trillion dollars could cover a couple of songs.)


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the mainstream corporate media are mouthpieces for the weapons industry. They are friends with benefits of the military-industrial complex. I have seen basically nothing from the mainstream corporate media concerning this mysterious $21 trillion. I missed the time when CNN’s Wolf Blitzer said that the money we dump into war and death—either the accounted-for money or the secretive trillions—could end world hunger and poverty many times over. There’s no reason anybody needs to be starving or hungry or unsheltered on this planet, but our government seems hellbent on proving that it stands for nothing but profiting off death and misery. And our media desperately want to show they stand for nothing but propping up our morally bankrupt empire.
Posted by Magician2
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:52 pm to
$21 trillion and we still get hacked from countries constantly.
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:06 pm to
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Nazi


When I saw mysterious UFO I immediately thought this was going to be in the opening lol.

Root Races From The Beginning goes into some interesting things about previous cycles of "humans." Could go with your ultraterrestrials post. That youtube channel has some fun stuff on it if you haven't seen it.
Posted by lsu5803tiger
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:08 pm to
Always found the most interesting thing hearing about people's trips on DMT, were the beings that they encountered.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:09 pm to
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zatetic


This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 8:10 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:10 pm to
Anyone that knows anybody who has first hand experience at ATC or military radar work will tell you there are a lot of strange things that come across their scopes that can’t be explained.

Then they look nervous and change the subject...
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:13 pm to
Keep up your adventurous journey on this path friend, can't wait to hear how it ends!
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:15 pm to
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Earlier this year, a Michigan State University economist, working with graduate students and a former government official, found $21 trillion in unauthorized spending in the departments of Defense and Housing and Urban Development for the years 1998-2015.
Yeah......no. $21 trillion over 17 years would have been almost 40% of the total U.S. federal government expenditures over that time frame. Not credible.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:23 pm to
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Not credible


I linked the MSU article in the OP (along with the concurrent Pentagon audit). All mainstream stuff

OIG report chronicling 6.5 trillion

I agree that it is hard to fathom/reconcile. That’s the point...

This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:37 pm to
Moon bases are expensive. Maybe we've already started construction on a Mars base too.

BTW, has anyone heard about this letter Nixon supposedly wrote and hid in the White House about aliens? LINK
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Investigative reporter Linda Moulton Howe presented an in-depth discussion about a reported "time capsule" letter handwritten by President Richard Nixon disclosing a "message to the American people about UFOs and ETs." Robert Merritt, who worked with Nixon, is coping with an incurable cancer and wants to make sure the time capsule is revealed before his death. Linda spoke with producer and reporter Daniel Liszt who shared segments of his exclusive interview with Merritt about the time capsule. When he initially posted it, YouTube suddenly took it down with no explanation.

Nixon handpicked Merritt to conduct covert projects for him and was said to trust him a great deal-- Merritt and Henry Kissinger were reportedly the only ones who knew about the time capsule. In July of 1972, Nixon read the contents of the letter to Merritt before he had him tape the documents to his body and deliver to the Kissinger's home. According to Merritt, the time and place were left up to him and Kissinger of when to tell the American people about the time capsule, which Nixon hid "in plain sight" inside a public room of the White House.

The location of the "time capsule letter" is now in possession of the US National Archive office through the efforts of former Watergate attorney Douglas Caddy acting on behalf of Robert Merritt, and Liszt is waiting to hear if they will retrieve and share the contents with the American public, as Merritt has stipulated. In reading the letter, which Merritt recalled had a kind of scientific formula in it, Nixon mentioned a "subject from Planet X," and said the ET presence made Star Trek look antiquated in that their concepts were extremely advanced.


the interview is a fascinating listen if you have the time LINK
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:59 am to
Aliens exist.. it's a no brainer
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:20 am to
Mainstream:

SF Chronicle




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Are we alone? Scientists revisit the question of aliens before National UFO Day

Kevin Knuth, University at Albany, State University of New York
June 28, 2018 Updated: June 29, 2018 10:22 a.m.


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As a NASA research scientist and now a professor of physics, I attended the 2002 NASA Contact Conference, which focused on serious speculation about extraterrestrials. During the meeting a concerned participant said loudly in a sinister tone, “You have absolutely no idea what is out there!” The silence was palpable as the truth of this statement sunk in. Humans are fearful of extraterrestrials visiting Earth. Perhaps fortunately, the distances between the stars are prohibitively vast. At least this is what we novices, who are just learning to travel into space, tell ourselves.


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I have always been interested in UFOs. Of course, there was the excitement that there could be aliens and other living worlds. But more exciting to me was the possibility that interstellar travel was technologically achievable. In 1988, during my second week of graduate school at Montana State University, several students and I were discussing a recent cattle mutilation that was associated with UFOs. A physics professor joined the conversation and told us that he had colleagues working at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Great Falls, Montana, where they were having problems with UFOs shutting down nuclear missiles. At the time I thought this professor was talking nonsense. But 20 years later, I was stunned to see a recording of a press conference featuring several former US Air Force personnel, with a couple from Malmstrom AFB, describing similar occurrences in the 1960s. Clearly there must be something to this.


Interfering with missle launches...

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I am often asked by friends and colleagues, “Why don’t astronomers see UFOs?” The fact is that they do. In 1977, Peter Sturrock, a professor of space science and astrophysics at Stanford University, mailed 2,611 questionnaires about UFO sightings to members of the American Astronomical Society. He received 1,356 responses from which 62 astronomers – 4.6 percent – reported witnessing or recording inexplicable aerial phenomena. This rate is similar to the approximately 5 percent of UFO sightings that are never explained.


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The countries of Brazil, Canada, Denmark, Ecuador, France, New Zealand, Russia, Sweden and the United Kingdom have been declassifying their UFO files since 2008. The French Committee for In-Depth Studies, or COMETA, was an unofficial UFO study group comprised of high-ranking scientists and military officials that studied UFOs in the late 1990s. They released the COMETA Report, which summarized their findings. They concluded that 5 percent of the encounters were reliable yet inexplicable: The best hypothesis available was that the observed craft were extraterrestrial. They also accused the United States of covering up evidence of UFOs. Iran has been concerned about spherical UFOs observed near nuclear power facilities that they call “CIA drones” which reportedly are about 30 feet in diameter, can achieve speeds up to Mach 10, and can leave the atmosphere. Such speeds are on par with the fastest experimental aircraft, but unthinkable for a sphere without lift surfaces or an obvious propulsion mechanism.


Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:22 am to
Mainstream:

NBC

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Saturn's moon Enceladus is now the likeliest place to find alien life Astronomers found complex organic molecules, the building blocks of life, on the small icy moon.

by Denise Chow / Jun.30.2018 / 10:02 AM ET


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When a massive saltwater ocean was found hidden beneath the icy crust of Saturn’s moon Enceladus back in 2015, astronomers were cautiously optimistic that this watery world could have just the right conditions to host life. Now, thanks to a new study, Enceladus’ stock has gone up — way up. Using data from a dead spacecraft, an international team of astronomers has for the first time discovered complex organic (carbon-containing) molecules — the building blocks of life — spewing from Enceladus. The new finding, described in a paper published online June 27 in the journal Nature, makes the small icy moon the most promising place beyond Earth to find life in the solar system.


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It’s too soon to conclude that life exists on Enceladus, the sixth-largest of Saturn’s 62 confirmed moons. But scientists are intrigued because liquid water, a source of energy and organic molecules are three key ingredients to support life as we know it — and Enceladus has all three. “We now know that Enceladus’ ocean has all of these ingredients, today,” Christopher Glein, a geochemist at the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas, and a co-author of the study, told MACH in an email. “Besides Earth, no other place in the solar system has confirmed evidence of all three requirements in a contemporary environment that can support life.”


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The researchers think these organic compounds originate in Enceladus’ core and then flow into the subsurface ocean via hydrothermal vents, before escaping through cracks in the moon's icy crust.





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In 2005, NASA's Cassini spacecraft found evidence of a huge subsurface ocean on Enceladus.
ASA / JPL-Caltech


Jack Parsons...

Hollow moon...
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:28 am to
If what I experienced was genuine, we have had a space force (offshoot of the air force) for a very long time. According to what those officers told me, we have bases on the moon, mars, and the ones on a couple terraformed moons of saturn which they brought me to. They told me it would be made public soon. This was about a year ago.
Posted by Vastmind
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:32 am to
21 Trillion dollars in undocumented spending equals the national debt. This better be some game changing technology.
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