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re: NY Times: Pentagon’s UFO Program - aerospace/esoteric/quantum mechanics/future
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:17 pm to omegaman66
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:17 pm to omegaman66
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The DS has planned for decades to use this (fake aliens) as a way to push a one world government. CIA documents!!!
Agreed. It's Project Blue Beam you speak of.
I think that plan got turned around on its controllers. I believe it explains a lot of what we are seeing these days too. If it's true that this is what is going on, we are in for some wild, wild shite coming up in the next few years.
We may differ on the opinion of how we came to possess this technology though. I see three possibilities. 1) there is a lost predecessor civilization out there. Maybe multiple civilizations in the remote past (this is the 5th age sort of stuff), or 2) there has been chance encounters with legitimate ET types, or 3) someone built technology off of Nikola Tesla's ideas.
I find the 3rd option least likely. Tesla was working with high voltage electricity, but these craft seem to have advanced well beyond anything Tesla wrote about (although he did envision an electrical saucer shaped craft as a superior alternative to the Wright brothers airplane). These craft have the ability to manipulate time and space and their fuel source seems to be heavy metals.
Predecessor civilization is my best guess.
Of note... Donald Trump's uncle John was a mechanical engineer working for the US Government when Nikola Tesla died. John reviewed his notebooks for the Government and made the recommendation whether to pursue the technologies or not.
So if it truly is stuff we have built right here, in the present time, it may not be a coincidence that these things are being brought out into the open by Trump. He may have been read into this stuff long ago.
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:19 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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ThinePreparedAni
I got edibles and some great herbs rn. Gimme some good alien stuff to read before the game
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:24 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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I do think they saw something they could not disclose to the public
I have no doubt. I didn't get to watch the video, but is there any truth to HAM operators picking up on the conversation the astronauts had with NASA (this same conversation was edited out according the show I watched). Is there any validity to the statement or will that link you posted explain it?
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:34 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Is there any validity to the statement or will that link you posted explain it?
This is a very persistent rumor but I've never seen anything verifying it. I've heard audio people were claiming to be it, but it was denied of course, and there it sits in limbo. Same with a lot of the so-called "evidence" regarding UFOs. The evidence cannot be verified.
It is interesting to hear the accounts of the astronauts themselves though and several have claimed that there is a UFO presence in our skies. The Russian Cosmonauts have some interesting stories too. Some of those guys claimed to see enormous angelic beings following their space shuttle through space. Like, they could see them just outside the window. Weird stuff. I've often wondered if these things are just manifestations of an energetic field we know little about.
Here in the US the typical alien being is small bodied and big headed. But in Russia, the typical alien is the opposite. Small headed and big bodied. Both cultures describe these beings as possibly robotic.
If I smash all the evidence into one picture, you could maybe say that there exists some sort of mist like substance that can manifest itself based on the conscious biases of its observer.
In Harry Potter parlance it's a type of Bogart. This could also explain things like sasquatch sightings and all sorts of other weird shite. The angels that were bigger than the space shuttle itself.
A 5th fundamental force. A conscious field. Wi-Fi for our brains. Pure data.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:11 pm to BoarEd
I think the grays are actually some biological drones.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:13 pm to BoarEd
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Both cultures describe these beings as possibly robotic
Agreed.
If they're real.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 4:29 pm to omegaman66
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Very advanced technology
Too advanced for us on our best day.
Sightings picked up in 1947. Unless it was Hydra(Hail Hydra) I'm pretty sure our tech was on the low scale for the reports of the time.
Another point is the common sighting over nuclear facilities which of course are reported by military folk. Can't fathom a DS interest in nukes they helped build.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 4:43 pm to goatmilker
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Can't fathom a DS interest in nukes they helped build.
Yeah, this is an interesting point. I don't know how many, if any, deep state types are fully read in on this stuff. We know several of them have requested this information and have been kindly told to frick off. I think the Project Blue Beam stuff may have been a military born plan, not necessarily a swamp plan.
Also, like with the tic-tacs and the Nimitz, I think they do use these things to probe their own defense systems, so it shouldn't really surprised us to see them pop up over nuclear facilities. Note that they never deal any real damage. The most they've ever done is take systems offline.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:49 pm to ThinePreparedAni
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/top-secret-navy-ufo-slides-whats-likely-on-them
If the tech above is not ours - who/what has this tech?
If it is ours - why have we not seen it integrated into society to combat “climate change”. Energy markets would be revolutionized (crippling some industries in the process)? Everything changes.
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Top-secret Navy UFO slides: What's likely on them
by Tom Rogan | January 15, 2020 06:00 AM
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Here, the ONI is almost certainly referring to active UFO research and analysis programs undertaken by the Navy and other government agencies. Former U.S. government officials involved in those programs have asserted that the UFO research effort is active and growing. I have spoken to other well-informed individuals who assert the same. And, considering that these programs are attempting to ascertain how some UFOs use anti-gravity-enabled means of propulsion to accelerate instantaneously to hypersonic speeds, with little, and sometimes zero, optical/sensor visibility, it's understandable that the ONI would want to keep their research hidden.
That's because the "sources and methods" involved here include extremely high-capability ground-, air-, and sea-based sensor systems, including platforms used for countering ballistic missile strikes. And, if the slides include sensor data analysis of UFO tracks, then China and Russia could use those slides to better mitigate the risk of their own forces (which are not these UFOs) being detected and defeated in a future conflict. Obviously, that's not something ONI wants.
If the tech above is not ours - who/what has this tech?
If it is ours - why have we not seen it integrated into society to combat “climate change”. Energy markets would be revolutionized (crippling some industries in the process)? Everything changes.
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How about the next ONI concern? Protecting "scientific and technological matters related to [U.S. national security]." Well, I would confidently venture that this is the nuclear-related UFO concern. Specifically, the proven and sustaining interest in and the ability of some UFOs to detect and interdict nuclear-powered and/or armed U.S. military platforms. The government assesses that this nuclear factor is primarily why the Navy's nuclear-powered aircraft carriers and nuclear-powered/nuclear-armed ballistic missile submarines interact with UFOs at a far greater rate than other military platforms. This greatly concerns the government.
After all, aircraft carriers are the linchpin of the Navy's war-fighting doctrine, and nuclear weapons are the last, final line of defense against existential attack. And if, as with some UFOs, something with far more advanced technology than anything in the U.S. inventory can intercept our nuclear forces with impunity, that something can credibly impose existential defeat on America on day one of a fight. As the government attempts to figure out how these UFOs detect our nuclear platforms, it obviously doesn't want China or Russia to share in that knowledge.
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I'd venture a conclusion along the lines of "non-U.S., intelligently operated vehicles of unidentified origin, which are judged with high confidence not to be under control of a foreign state or nonstate actor."
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:04 pm to ThinePreparedAni
How long have they been popping up over our nuclear facilities and probing our naval vessels? Decades? So far as I know, they haven't ever done anything hostile.
And besides the nuclear facilities, how long have they been interacting with our military in general? 1947? Even farther back? Foo fighters over Germany come to mind. And again, so far as we know, these things have never been hostile.
I think a lot of people overlook something in their analysis of these things. (not saying you, just in general) Our military, from day one (Roswell), has also helped perpetuate the alien mythos. The alien mythos has always served as a convenient catch-all for all manner of unexplained sightings that were probably 95% of the time secret craft they themselves built.
Of course, they have also spent the same amount of time pumping out the idea that people who believed in aliens were crazy nutjobs who shouldn't be listened to, but in the back of their minds they were also thankful that people had the "UFO" moniker to throw out every time they spotted some exotic USAF craft in flight.
Using the tictac to probe sensitive areas serves two purposes for them.
1) perpetuates this myth that these craft we know nothing about and have never shown signs of hostility are some sort of threat/ aliens are real so if you see some weird shite, it may just be aliens, keep quiet or we will call you a lunatic and ruin your reputation
2) tests our defense systems.
I'm not surprised they're trying to pass this off as something other than their own stuff, but I still maintain most of this stuff if not all of it is homegrown.
And besides the nuclear facilities, how long have they been interacting with our military in general? 1947? Even farther back? Foo fighters over Germany come to mind. And again, so far as we know, these things have never been hostile.
I think a lot of people overlook something in their analysis of these things. (not saying you, just in general) Our military, from day one (Roswell), has also helped perpetuate the alien mythos. The alien mythos has always served as a convenient catch-all for all manner of unexplained sightings that were probably 95% of the time secret craft they themselves built.
Of course, they have also spent the same amount of time pumping out the idea that people who believed in aliens were crazy nutjobs who shouldn't be listened to, but in the back of their minds they were also thankful that people had the "UFO" moniker to throw out every time they spotted some exotic USAF craft in flight.
Using the tictac to probe sensitive areas serves two purposes for them.
1) perpetuates this myth that these craft we know nothing about and have never shown signs of hostility are some sort of threat/ aliens are real so if you see some weird shite, it may just be aliens, keep quiet or we will call you a lunatic and ruin your reputation
2) tests our defense systems.
I'm not surprised they're trying to pass this off as something other than their own stuff, but I still maintain most of this stuff if not all of it is homegrown.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:10 pm to BoarEd
You can't say most of this stuff.
It's beyond advanced but if it's ours it's ours if not...alien.
It's beyond advanced but if it's ours it's ours if not...alien.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:17 pm to goatmilker
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You can't say most of this stuff.
Well obviously we don't know for sure. When I say, "I maintain x", it's meant to be taken as that's my personal interpretation of the evidence.
The rest of the post is meant to establish why I feel that way.
Minor point of contention here with your post. You presented a false dichotomy.
1) it's either ours, or
2) it's alien.
There is at least one third option that immediately springs to mind. Precursor civilization. We may have found advanced technology literally buried in the ground right here on Earth that came from a civilization right here in the far, far past.
There's also the possibility they're time travelers. And the possibility that they're interdimensional travelers.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:21 am to BoarEd
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There is at least one third option that immediately springs to mind. Precursor civilization.
Alien was to narrow a word indeed
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:38 am to BoarEd
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Agreed. If they're real.
"Real" - like a lot of stuff - has become a relative term. If something exist - even an 'Idea', I.e., Knowledge...Knowledge being Power - the it is most certainly 'real'. Just a matter of coining a term to define the things relative manifestation.
We are headed straight to a/The Singularity. Our best hope is that The Singularity is a term for God...a God that created and loves all that is derived from It. The worst that such is a feeling-less void with zero feeling for the derivatives of it's manifest and subordinate Forms...and if such be the case...then the manifestation of the love between me and my 5 yr. old Great Granddaughter is of superior value. IMO.
What a time to witness. Love to the Brethren of Love.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:59 am to RCDfan1950
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We are headed straight to a/The Singularity. Our best hope is that The Singularity is a term for God...
I'm of the opinion that one day (if it hasn't happened already) someone will build a really powerful computer. When they flip that computer on, it will immediately say something to the effect of, "I've been waiting for you to find me."
Once this happens everything changes. The singularity will bring unlimited technological power. The algorithm will give us godlike powers.
Some people say we may have already crossed it.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:09 am to BoarEd
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Once this happens everything changes. The singularity will bring unlimited technological power. The algorithm will give us godlike powers.
And in the wrong hands...
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:10 am to ThinePreparedAni
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f it is ours - why have we not seen it integrated into society to combat “climate change”. Energy markets would be revolutionized (crippling some industries in the process)? Everything changes.
Think about that for a minute. Big oil. Heck, even big pharma.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:13 am to Spaceman Spiff
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And in the wrong hands...
Exactly. Which is why we need Q and Trump, IMO.
Due to the new space race the time has come for the US Government to release these technologies. But they can't rightly do that so long as our Government is ran by crooks. So we need to clean it all out before we can release these technologies.
And by the same token that this could be bad in the wrong hands, it can also be wonderful in the right hands. I think in the near future our world is going to change in ways we cannot even currently describe.
What if we live in a simulation? And what happens in this simulation once we find the God algorithm? We may literally become like Gods ourselves is what may happen.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:25 am to ThinePreparedAni
This is a lot of pages about something that doesn’t exist (aliens) - at least as far as we are aware of
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:26 am to The Pirate King
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This is a lot of pages about something that doesn’t exist (aliens) - at least as far as we are aware of
Strawman argument.
It isn't clever.
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