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Niall Ferguson calls GND “Sovietization” and the “end of growth”

Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:37 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:37 pm
In tonight’s interview with Mark Levin. It never fails to amaze me how articulate and historically knowledgeable this guy is. This interview is much watch TV regardless of political leanings.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:39 pm to
I agree with this message!
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:40 pm to
What the hell id GND?
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:44 pm to
Sorry, the Green New Deal
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98658 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:46 pm to
If it walks like a communist and talks like a communist, expect communism.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19488 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:53 pm to

Remember that the green in GND is supposed to be about radical environmentalism and fighting climate change. What he’s saying is what many know: environmentalism has been procured by the radical left, and the measures proposed by them are about advancing marxism, not fighting climate change.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:57 pm to
Other interesting claims:

Trump, more than anyone else, deserves credit for awakening the American consciousness to the geopolitical threat of China.

Calling Trump a racist or white supremacist is a losing argument for the left.

The left is arguing for democratic socialism precisely as it is causing unprecedented problems in Europe.

The American left doesn’t understand what socialism is; thinks it’s simply student loan forgiveness and free healthcare.

The Squad are a threat to the Democrats more than the Republicans, as the more they talk, the more most people hate the Democrats.

The center/right shouldn’t use the term “Capitalism,” as that was a term invented by Marx. We should simply talk about free markets and small business.

We are in a second Cold War, but this time with China. Russia is all but irrelevant, except with respect to military/nuclear prowess, where they score well.

Biden underestimates China. Obama essentially surrendered to China.

The right should make 2020 about foreign policy and American strength. The left wants to make 2020 about free healthcare and racial division. The left is intentionally trying to reignite divisions which had previously been all but healed.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:58 pm to
Agreed. Fighting climate change is the vehicle. More power in the hands of central government is the goal.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:59 pm to
I could listen to Niall talk about anything
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14032 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:00 pm to
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power in the hands of central government is the goal.


They can't keep a guy on suicide watch alive wtf does anyone think they could cure climate shite?
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:03 pm to
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Sorry, the Green New Deal


Oh OK.. I googled it and could figure it out.

I don't think even the Russians or the Chicoms would be dumb enough to try that crap.
This post was edited on 8/10/19 at 8:05 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259594 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:04 pm to
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and the measures proposed by them are about advancing marxism, not fighting climate change.


"The issue is never the issue, the issue always the revolution"

Spoken 50 years ago by a leftist radical
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
2816 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:25 pm to
Hate that I missed that. I'll have to look for a replay. If any of you haven't read any of Niall Ferguson's books, they are worth reading.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20852 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:53 am to
Common sense dictates how irrelevant the GND is! Should be obvious to anyone that it will call for the destruction of capitalism and we will fall behind several countries in productivity, defense, etc. But, let's say the GND is implemented for the sake of the environment...does it really change anything? No! Mexico will continue to pour raw sewage into the main waterways and what about India, China & Russia? Are they going to stop polluting? Anything the U. S. does with regard to GND will
have ZERO effect on the rest of the world, it will only serve to destroy the U.S. economy.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13265 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 3:05 am to
If countries or people truly cared about the environment.....they would all stop trade or purchasing anything from china. They are by far the largest polluters in the world. With all the efforts of the rest of the world to reduce co2 emissions, the gains made were offset by china's increase in pollution last year.

Thats one heck of a stat, and no one, no one talks about it.

Because it was never about climate change nor was it about racism, its about control plain and simple.
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 5:54 am to
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What the hell id GND?


Earth ground. and if we stop using it, it will definitely be the end of growth.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 5:55 am
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