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New York State to require 3 years of social media posts to purchase a firearm

Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:33 pm
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New York Governor Kathy Hochul once again signed sweeping gun legislation into law on Friday that created several severe new restrictions on obtaining a gun in the state, including drastically increasing concealed carry regulations and requiring applicants to turn over social media history.

According to the the legislation, part of Hochul's new criteria to obtain a concealed carry permit will be an applicant giving the government a list containing three years of history of their current and inactive social media accounts. Applicants must also have 16 hours of firearm training, provide four character references, and list the contact information for any domestic partners or adults of any kind they live with.

Potential applicants will also be required to show "good moral character," meaning "the essential character, temperament and judgment necessary to be entrusted with a weapon and to use it only in a manner that does not endanger oneself and others."

At a press conference regarding the new legislation, Hochul said "we are creating a definitive list of sensitive locations where individuals will not be able to carry firearms."

This list includes "schools, summer camps, libraries, daycares, parks and playgrounds, places children gather, theaters, museums, entertainment venues, places of worship for religious observation, polling places, educational institutions, and health medical facilities. Federal State Local government buildings, homeless and domestic violence shelters, places where alcohol is consumed, restaurants, bars, public transportation, subway buses, airports and at public demonstrations and rallies, and in Times Square."

Another new rule is a "Default of No Concealed Carry on Private Property and Businesses Unless Deemed Permissible by Property Owners." Hochul said of this law, "We are making 'no open carry' the default position for private businesses. That means that any business, grocery store, retail, private home, place that wants to allow guns on their premises will have to demonstrate that and establish that they put a sign out there that says concealed carry guns are welcome here."


When people said that Andrew Cuomo being kicked out of the governorship would be replaced with someone worse, I found that hard to believe, but y’all were right.

This has to be the most blatantly unconstitutional thing I’ve ever seen. Like even Sotomayor and Brown are going to have to throw this shite out, right? I don’t see how you can possibly read the constitution and Bill of Rights and think this is remotely legal.
Posted by Isaiahprophet
Member since Jun 2022
248 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:34 pm to
It doesn't matter. Won't stand up in court.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34581 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:35 pm to
Will be rejected in court like an Owlfan thread.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:35 pm to
That is major league invasion of privacy!

So, I bet if you are a TRUMPER, you are disqualified!

frick NY and CA!

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70851 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:36 pm to
Should get struck down 9-0. Whole point of voiding may-issue was that it was subjective.

This is even worse because it allows people to be penalized for speech.

If they want to go after people like the Parkland shooter, prosecute them for terroristic threats and make that a disqualifying crime.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98453 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:36 pm to
Even a NY based federal judge will slap this down
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
41059 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:37 pm to
What a joke.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15395 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:38 pm to
So now they want to violate your first amendment and second amendment rights at the same time?

WTF leftists?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
70989 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:41 pm to
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This has to be the most blatantly unconstitutional thing I’ve ever seen. Like even Sotomayor and Brown are going to have to throw this shite out, right? I don’t see how you can possibly read the constitution and Bill of Rights and think this is remotely legal.


They don't care. Look at Justice Breyer's dissenting opinion in NYSRPA v. Bruen. The Constitution took a back seat to their politics then. I don't know that this would be any different.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:43 pm to
Lol.

This is DOA at the USSC.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9241 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:43 pm to
... And what if someone doesn't use "social media"? Denied a firearm because they don't have a Twitter account?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112406 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:46 pm to
So they send the 3 years of posts to a dept in Albany.

Frank: 'Marge, here's 75 application files for a gun. Ya gotta check each one's 3 years of media posts. Where should I dump them?'

Marge: 'Wow, we ain't got room for that. Wait, just put them in that old clothes closet. It's pretty much empty. I'll get started on them next week. BTW Frank, how's your mom doing?'

Frank: 'Not so good. She's got back troubles. It might be neuralgia.'

Marge: 'Oooh, that can be bad. Let's take a break and get some coffee in the staff lounge. You can tell me all about it.'
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29208 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:47 pm to
What a shitehole

Have to have a clean twitter account that someone else determines just so you can hopefully get approved for it to be able to defend yourself on the subways and streets

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Potential applicants will also be required to show "good moral character," meaning "the essential character, temperament and judgment necessary to be entrusted with a weapon and to use it only in a manner that does not endanger oneself and others."


So you’ll have creepy basement dwelling kiddie porn hoarding mutants deciding on if you’re of good moral character



This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1087 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:51 pm to
When you criminalize a fundamental right, you make outlaws of decent moral people.

Also, the types of people who would shoot up a school or playground will definitely abide by this “law.”
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:52 pm to
One more step on the ultimate goal. Criminalizing dissenting speech.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:54 pm to
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This list includes "schools, summer camps, libraries, daycares, parks and playgrounds, places children gather, theaters, museums, entertainment venues, places of worship for religious observation, polling places, educational institutions, and health medical facilities. Federal State Local government buildings, homeless and domestic violence shelters, places where alcohol is consumed, restaurants, bars, public transportation, subway buses, airports and at public demonstrations and rallies, and in Times Square."

May as well post signs out front: We aren’t armed; come commit your crime(s) here
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44697 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:56 pm to
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And what if someone doesn't use "social media"? Denied a firearm because they don't have a Twitter account?


If the left ever gets a social credit system implemented like they want to, then yes. Not having Twitter or Facebook would unquestionably be used against you.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10894 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:02 pm to
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Potential applicants will also be required to show "good moral character,"


Democrats need not apply
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27261 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:04 pm to
So if I don’t have social media I can’t get a gun?

Does my posting on TDs count as social media?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81285 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:04 pm to
Well guess I will be purchasing my first handgun soon before its too late
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