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New Study: Dietary inequality not caused by fewer healthy foods in poor areas
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:44 pm
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In a new working paper, Hunt Alcott of New York University, Rebecca Diamond of Stanford’s Graduate School of Business, and Jean-Pierre Dubé of the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business analyze the relationship between food deserts and food choices. By analyzing two different types of events, the entry of new supermarkets and households moving to healthier neighborhoods, the authors “reject that neighborhood environments have economically meaningful effects on healthy eating.” If low-income households faced the same food and price choices available to high-income households, they estimate that nutritional inequality would only decline by nine percent.
Instead of a supply-side explanation, such as the lack of accessible grocery stores, the authors find that 91 percent of nutritional inequality is driven by differences in demand that are explained by factors such as education, nutrition knowledge, or regional preferences. Taken with earlier studies that also failed to find a link between grocery store prevalence and dietary habits, these new findings should further increase the amount of skepticism and scrutiny brought to claims that a new initiative to combat food deserts will have an effect on obesity or nutrition. The vast majority of nutritional differences are not attributable to choice or price of the grocery options available, making it an ineffectual policy lever.
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This is simply an example of what thomas sowell calls the "randomness fallacy". For some reason, many pundits and scholars assume that dietary intake should naturally be randomly distributed across all sectors of American society (i.e. a person in the south should have same diet and food habits as asian person in seattle), and that unequal nutrition consumption is evidence of something negative acting in the system.
The reality is that different people and different cultures favor different foods, and put different amounts of importance on eating healthy. Culture matters more in this than the system "marginalizing people".
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
tl;dr- poor people are ignorant and have terrible diets
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
we need a new law asap
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It all boils down to either lack of knowledge of proper nutrition, a frick it attitude, or both.
You can eat a pretty healthy and balanced diet for $50 a week.
You can eat a pretty healthy and balanced diet for $50 a week.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:50 pm to Deuces
quote:Just to be clear: the idea that a fricking adult in America doesn't know what is healthy/unhealthy is a very lame excuse.
It all boils down to either lack of knowledge of proper nutrition, a frick it attitude, or both.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Our own government's dietary guidelines don't help either. Way too much sugar in people's diets...even if one was to strictly follow those guidelines.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:56 pm to Deuces
You can eat healthy for very cheap.
A pound of black beans is like $1. That can feed a whole family.
The problem is you put a bag of beans in front of someone or a bag of Doritos, they're gonna grab the Doritos more times than not.
A pound of black beans is like $1. That can feed a whole family.
The problem is you put a bag of beans in front of someone or a bag of Doritos, they're gonna grab the Doritos more times than not.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:08 pm to rintintin
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The problem is you put a bag of beans in front of someone or a bag of Doritos, they're gonna grab the Doritos more times than not.
It's because it's less prep work. People are typically lazy.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The main difference is time
1. Time to be knowledgeable how nutrition impacts health overall
2. Time to obtain quality food
3. Time to prepare quality food
Low income folks tend to have issues with all 3
High income working folks tend to have issues with 2 and 3 (foresaking 1 to make more money, buy more shite they don’t need)
Health is traded for convenience
I am aware of equally unhealthy “poor” and “wealthy” folks. Like much in life, balance is key
1. Time to be knowledgeable how nutrition impacts health overall
2. Time to obtain quality food
3. Time to prepare quality food
Low income folks tend to have issues with all 3
High income working folks tend to have issues with 2 and 3 (foresaking 1 to make more money, buy more shite they don’t need)
Health is traded for convenience
I am aware of equally unhealthy “poor” and “wealthy” folks. Like much in life, balance is key
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:10 pm to Deuces
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You can eat a pretty healthy and balanced diet for $50 a week.
Last night, we ate a big swordfish steak and asparagus. Both were on sale. We were full and spent a total of $6, with tax.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:23 pm to rintintin
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A pound of black beans is like $1. That can feed a whole family.
The problem is you put a bag of beans in front of someone or a bag of Doritos, they're gonna grab the Doritos more times than not.
The idea that healthy foods are expensive has always been bullshite. Lentils, various beans, oatmeal, bulgur, certain fruits/veggies, etc. are all very cheap.
Chicken is always cheap. You can make two quarts of Greek yogurt (about 175 grams protein) for around $3. Hell, even nuts are cheap if you consider the calorie content. I buy raw almonds for about $6 a pound. For some reason people think that's expensive, but when you consider that you're talking about 2600 calories of almonds, I don't know how can make that argument.
People don't eat healthily because they don't want to, or because they're lazy and don't want to prepare their meals.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:27 pm to Deuces
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It all boils down to either lack of knowledge of proper nutrition, a frick it attitude, or both.
Yeah, the same attitude that keeps them poor also keeps them fat.
That's why the "farmers markets are racist" article makes me laugh.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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New Study: Dietary inequality not caused by fewer healthy foods in poor areas
It's easier to buy a gun in poor areas than buy a carrot. I think Obama pointed that out....not real sure tho.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I hope they didn’t spend much money to determine Supply and Demand makes the world go ‘round.
If people in poor areas wanted “healthy” options, the supply would be all over the hood
If people in poor areas wanted “healthy” options, the supply would be all over the hood
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Just to be clear: the idea that a fricking adult in America doesn't know what is healthy/unhealthy is a very lame excuse
This. If you're in doubt lean meats and any type of veggies are always an option. I tend to eat like shite though but I'm still young and workout a lot so I can overcome it for the time being.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:43 pm to Yat27
Bottom line, liberals love to make excuses for poor people and their shitty behavior. They are fat because they don't have access to fresh fruits and vegetables. They get arrested because they're targeted by racist police. They smoke because they didn't know it was bad for them. Somehow, it's always someone else's fault.
You know how much money it costs and time it takes to not eat a 2,000 calorie meal? ZERO.
You know how much money it costs and time it takes to not eat a 2,000 calorie meal? ZERO.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So, obesity and poverty are both results of poor choices and habits.
I'm shocked.
I'm shocked.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:i agree for the most part, but i think people not knowing just how fattening carbs are is kind of legit
Just to be clear: the idea that a fricking adult in America doesn't know what is healthy/unhealthy is a very lame excuse.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Great explanation. One of the biggest problems with the academic class today is that they’ve worked so hard to develop sophisticated models that they are often prone to completely ignore what is plainly common sense.
This is simply an example of what thomas sowell calls the "randomness fallacy". For some reason, many pundits and scholars assume that dietary intake should naturally be randomly distributed across all sectors of American society (i.e. a person in the south should have same diet and food habits as asian person in seattle), and that unequal nutrition consumption is evidence of something negative acting in the system
50 years ago, every farmer across the country could have told you that different cultures want to eat different foods. Today we need a joint project between stanford and nyu to find a model that yields such a common sense result.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:35 pm to rintintin
quote:Hmm have you tried to eat raw beans?
The problem is you put a bag of beans
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