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New Louisiana Senate Bill 216

Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:14 am
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:14 am
Fox 8 New Orleans

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NEW ORLEANS (WVUE) - A bill proposed by a New Orleans state senator would hold gun owners liable for civil damages if their firearms are stolen from unlocked vehicles and used in subsequent felony crimes.


I’m speechless at how absurd this is. Trying to put liability on a victim of a crime.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10225 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:16 am to
The perpetrators have no responsibility for their thefts of items used in additional crimes
Posted by Deuces
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Member since Nov 2011
12358 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:17 am to
It’s like suing the car company for someone driving drunk and crashing.

Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10225 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:18 am to
We are living in Rod Sterling’s Twilight Zone
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421242 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:21 am to
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if their firearms are stolen from unlocked vehicles and used in subsequent felony crimes.

What in the..frick?

So a person 2 felonies removed from an injury to another now has a nexus for liability because of one of those crimes?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39845 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:23 am to
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like suing the car company for someone driving drunk and crashing.


It’s actually worse than that. The car company at least made the car. And this scenario it’s just a crime victim, having his possession stolen, and then being liable for their subsequent use.
Posted by Sidicous
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Member since Aug 2015
17100 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:24 am to
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It’s like suing the car company for someone driving drunk and crashing.
Not really. It's not like stupid and lazy people leaving a bottle of booze in a known target of theft in an area known for theft.

P.S.
I still do NOT support this proposal but admit a large part of stolen gun problem lies with the owners being too stupid and/or lazy to carry their weapons out of their known theft target. It's not like auto burglaries/thefts are a rare thing in NOLA metro area. It's even more frequent than daily really as it occurs possibly hundreds of times a day there.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:25 am to
Theft is illegal.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6506 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:31 am to
La. senator gary carter (D) is the sponsor of this bill.
Hope the bill does not get out of committee.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1922 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:31 am to
this is the definition of stupid. democrats are chomping at the bits to pass gun laws....doesnt matter whats passed as long as they pass it.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15015 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:33 am to
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I’m speechless at how absurd this is. Trying to put liability on a victim of a crime.


Don't be. It is where we are now. They will throw your arse in jail for owning a gun, one way or the other.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6814 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:34 am to
All the ridiculous stuff aside, What is the mechanism/threshold for determining the vehicle was 'unlocked' and to who has the burden of proving/disproving this element?





Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1922 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:37 am to
well, if your gun was stolen from your unlocked truck last night, just lock it and bust the window.


also, i wonder if this applies to knives. i see a lot of irresponsible knife owners out there.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67615 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:40 am to

I had one stolen several years ago, but the truck was locked.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16862 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:42 am to
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firearms are stolen from unlocked vehicles


How, exactly, would they know this?!
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7975 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:42 am to
So who is going to determine if the car was unlocked or not?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30667 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:50 am to


This dude is a dumbass.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94769 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:53 am to
If someone proposed a bill that anyone on food stamps who sold their Louisiana Purchase card to someone else was responsible for paying cash for all the fraudulent purchases, this same Senator likely loses their shite.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27015 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:54 am to
If they would quit creating gun free zones, maybe people would not leave their firearms in their vehicles in the first place?

Beyond stupid but Alabama is looking at something similar, unfortunately...
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94769 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:55 am to
Looks like he knows a lot about dicks.
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