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Necessities that weren't necessary 40 years ago

Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:15 pm
I got to talking to my 20 year-old son, who, God willing, will be moving out of the house in a year or so. We discussed the expenses of living on your own, and I realized that kids to day spend money on things we didn't, back in the day.

When I was a kid, I didn't have to spend money on:

Cell phones
Cell phone plans
Internet
Laptop
TV in the bedroom
Health insurance that cost 20% of my monthly budget
Gaming systems
Streaming services
bottled water


Am I missing anything? I know some of these things aren't "necessary", but they seem to be for kids, today. This is $4-500 bucks a month before they even start making a car payment, utilities, rent, food, etc.

No wonder people feel poor and want the government to give them assistance...
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12941 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:16 pm to
it's silicon valley and hollywood's chokehold on the world
Posted by TomTheGhost
Member since Dec 2018
852 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:17 pm to
Progress is cool isn't it?
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Cell phones
Cell phone plans
Internet
Laptop
TV in the bedroom
Health insurance that cost 20% of my monthly budget
Gaming systems
Streaming services
bottled water

Most of these are not necessities. Sounds like you need to teach your son more about need vs want.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120154 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:19 pm to
He needs none of that stuff except insurance which was needed 40 years ago as well

A prepaid cell phone plan with cheap phone is like $30 a month
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Most of these are not necessities. Sounds like you need to teach your son more about need vs want.


Precisely what our conversation was about. I told him to dial back his expectations on what he could afford. He is poor.

My son is a spontaneous buyer. Both of my daughters can stretch a dollar. My son struggles. They are triplets, and all got the same lessons, growing up...
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

No wonder people feel poor and want the government to give them assistance...


fricking retard
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

He needs none of that stuff except insurance which was needed 40 years ago as well


40 years ago, most employers covered all or most of the cost of insurance. Today, it is a major expense for young people.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7478 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

TV in the bedroom


Tell him to get an efficiency apartment. Problem solved.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14786 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:45 pm to
You're in Jax? Thankfully the cost of living isn't out of control there but, yes, he can live without some of those things. Living in Miami way back when I was a staff was a biiiiitch.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45153 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:46 pm to
Everyone I know in their 20s pays Instacart to shop for and deliver their groceries.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98699 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

They are triplets,


Gonna need pics to confirm this, recent pics only of course. Boy optional.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64017 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:49 pm to
quote:


Cell phones - Necessary, but can go cheap
Cell phone plans - See above
Internet - Need if in college but can go on campus and use computers/internet
Laptop - See above
TV in the bedroom - Not necessary
Health insurance that cost 20% of my monthly budget - Necessary
Gaming systems - LOL Not necessary
Streaming services - LOL not necessary
bottled water - drink tap water


I see 3 things that are necessary and 2 of them you can go cheap on. The other things are luxuries. Tough lesson to learn for the youth of today.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 3:51 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7994 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:50 pm to
Of those, cell phone and internet are pretty much necessities. 20% of income towards health insurance is damn high - find a cheaper plan or figure something else out because he is getting screwed. Either your income is low enough to qualify for Medicaid or your employer needs to do better.

Laptop is a one-time cost wherein even an expense Apple laptop amortized over its useful life shouldn't be more than $30 - 50 per month.

The rest of it are very much need-to-haves, not must-haves.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32196 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:55 pm to
Civilian access to GPS
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120154 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

40 years ago, most employers covered all or most of the cost of insurance. Today, it is a major expense for young people.


Poor young people can get obamacare for like $40 a month
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59493 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 4:07 pm to
Given that we have folks on welfare with big screen HDTVs, the latest cell phones, and a minimum of $1k in video game systems & software, yeah...
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 4:07 pm to
Cell phone and internet access are the only two things on that list that are really "necessities"
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17672 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 4:09 pm to
2 family automobiles

2 parents working

Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 4:19 pm to
I'm saying that these so-called "necessities" are why people think they are poor these days. Too many people think they have to have all this shite. Then they wake up one day and it's time to retire and they don't have any money.

This is why Socialism is attractive to people. They view it as a retirement plan.
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