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Mueller report says Flynn was under russian investigation as early as 2014/15

Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:51 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:51 am
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In his new report on the Trump-Russia affair, special counsel Robert Mueller revealed that former national security adviser Michael Flynn was already under FBI investigation when he spoke with the Russian ambassador during the transition before President Trump took office. Flynn's conversations with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were previously thought, by the public at least, to be the reason the FBI became suspicious about, and began investigating, Flynn's conduct.

Flynn was never charged with any crime relating to now-debunked allegations the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with Russia to fix the 2016 election. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in a Jan. 24, 2017 interview during which he was questioned about the Kislyak calls. Specifically, Flynn denied that he and Kislyak discussed Russia's reaction to new U.S. sanctions over election interference, when a transcript of the conversation, based on a secret wiretap, showed that they had.

Now, Mueller strongly suggests something else was up. Obama administration intelligence officials "were surprised by Russia's decision not to retaliate in response to the sanctions," the report said. "When analyzing Russia's response, they became aware of Flynn's discussion of sanctions with Kislyak. Previously, the FBI had opened an investigation of Flynn based on his relationship with the Russian government. Flynn's contacts with Kislyak became a key component of that investigation." (emphasis added)



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Now comes news that there was an open, Russia-related investigation of Flynn before the Kislyak conversations ever took place. It's unclear what such an investigation was based on, and what it involved. Were there wiretaps? Some other sort of surveillance? Informants? It's all unknown, even after Flynn's guilty plea and long period of cooperation. (Flynn is still awaiting sentencing.)

But Mueller chose to make the existence of the investigation public. Now, the public needs to know more about what is, and was, going on.


Flynn wasn’t found to have been coordinating with russian in election interference, so why was he being spied on as early as 2014 as mueller suggests?

Seems fishy
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 10:52 am
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:57 am to
Stefan Halper
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:00 am to
He was anti-prog & anti-rino. They were trying to find a hook to hang a process crime on.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 11:02 am
Posted by Simpkjo
West Monroe
Member since Jun 2007
2912 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:11 am to
If that's true, wouldn't it be proper for the FBI to tell Trump or whoever is running for office that one of their picks for staff is under FBI investigation?
Posted by AUTiger1978
Member since Jan 2018
885 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:23 am to
Obama had it out for Flynn. Wasn't it because he had a different idea about unifying the ic?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45923 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:33 am to
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If that's true, wouldn't it be proper for the FBI to tell Trump or whoever is running for office that one of their picks for staff is under FBI investigation?


The failure of the FBI and related intel agencies to inform Trump of potential issues concerning foreign/Russian influence in his campaign staff and future cabinet members is a problem the Deep States Swampers are trying to defend. It’s indefensible!
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48813 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:37 am to
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If that's true, wouldn't it be proper for the FBI to tell Trump or whoever is running for office that one of their picks for staff is under FBI investigation?


If he were a democrat yes, but he wasn’t so they used it as a genesis of their coup
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51788 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:48 am to
Duh, Trump's been telling us Obama tapped his wires for 4 years.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35921 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:01 pm to
Flynn's only crime was opposing regime change and war in Syria.

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19798 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Flynn wasn’t found to have been coordinating with russian in election interference, so why was he being spied on as early as 2014 as mueller suggests?


Because the IC hated Flynn and had been after him for a while. Some speculate that is was then convenient to include the Trump campaign.

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The Russia Hoax was originally aimed at Flynn, not Trump.


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General Flynn saw that our battlefield intelligence was too slow. We collected information from the Middle East and sent it back to Washington, where men with stars on their shoulders and others at the civilian intel agencies chewed it over, decided what to do, and sent instructions back to the war zone. By the time all that happened, the battlefield had changed. Flynn short-circuited this cumbersome bureaucratic procedure and moved the whole enterprise to the war itself. The new methods were light years faster. Intel went to local analysts, new actions were ordered from men on the battlefield (Flynn famously didn’t care about rank or status) and the war shifted in our favor.


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By the time he was made head of DIA, Flynn had a real problem with the intelligence community, first because he had marginalized them, and for another reason: Flynn was determined to do a full-scale analysis of the (many) secret missions that had not been carried out over the years, and he wanted an accounting of the considerable funds allocated for them. He was not “A Team Player,” more than ever a major consideration to the Obama team. For example, the Benghazi attack on the consulate.


LINK
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146377 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 1:10 pm to
dirty cops gonna dirty cop
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