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FightnBobLafollette
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re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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let me get this straight - the government said the air was safe to breathe, so now we want the government to be the ones to care for them? That makes no sense.



No. They want the MONEY to be able to live and treat their issues.



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BuckyCheese
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Jan 2015
4159 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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How is that possible? How have they spent $5 billion? I mean I guess they just pay whatever is asked for by our broken system.


That is exactly what my biggest beef with this is.

Just keep throwing money at them to shut them up for a couple more years.


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RollTide1987
Alabama Fan
Washington, D.C.
Member since Nov 2009
42228 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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so now we want the government to be the ones to care for them


No.

We want the government to provide them with the funds that will make it easier for them to get the professional care they need without going bankrupt.


BuckyCheese
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Jan 2015
4159 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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They haven't. He's blowing smoke out of his ass. Congress initially agreed to pay out $7 billion when this relief fund first started. It hasn't paid out anywhere close to that amount because it turns out there were never enough funds allocated for it.


$5 billion is 2 billion less than 7 billion.


BuckyCheese
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Member since Jan 2015
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re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
Are the Fed's paying the medical bills of a firefighters in Chicago with meso?



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FightnBobLafollette
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Oct 2017
6151 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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How is that possible? How have they spent $5 billion? I mean I guess they just pay whatever is asked for by our broken system.


They haven’t spent it all. They have spent half.

There were at least 11000 that filed LAST YEAR.

Do the math.


DyeHardDylan
Auburn Fan
Member since Nov 2011
5199 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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No. We want the government to provide them with the funds that will make it easier for them to get the professional care they need without going bankrupt.


Why is it that we automatically assume the government should give us free stuff any time we need help instead of relying on neighbors, friends, and private donations for things like this? Once again, the government created this mess in the first place. Why should we assume they’re capable of righting it? They’re not. And these people will just keep coming back year after year asking for a few billion dollars here and there.


BuckyCheese
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Jan 2015
4159 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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There were at least 11000 that filed LAST YEAR.


What a fricking joke.


FightnBobLafollette
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Oct 2017
6151 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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What a fricking joke.


Yet not as big a one as you.


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blueboy
LSU Fan
between here and there
Member since Apr 2006
37679 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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How much money do 69 rounds of chemotherapy cost?


How did 9/11 give them cancer?

Don't get me wrong. I support making them whole after that horrible trauma, but what treatments are they getting and why?


efrad
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
13240 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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Yep. Libertarians are no less immoral than the progressive socialists whom they hate so much.


I'm a libertarian, don't group me in with this a-hole. I don't care how libertarian you are, they were hurt while performing labor for their employer, they should be compensated by their employer. Under their employment contract, contract law being something libertarians respect and hold up, they are entitled to be compensated


DyeHardDylan
Auburn Fan
Member since Nov 2011
5199 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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I'm a libertarian, don't group me in with this a-hole. I don't care how libertarian you are, they were hurt while performing labor for their employer, they should be compensated by their employer. Under their employment contract, contract law being something libertarians respect and hold up, they are entitled to be compensated


A true libertarian would never support federal spending that is not explicitly authorized under the constitution. If we’re so determined to have Big Brother take care of them, it should be done at the state and local level. And anytime the federal government gets involved in something like this, it is a form of discrimination. You’re essentially allowing the government to pick which firefighters and city employees to provide aid to. What about other first responders in cities all over the country who are suffering from related illnesses? They don’t deserve a few billion dollars from the government?
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BuckyCheese
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Jan 2015
4159 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
NYC firefighters are not federal employees.


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KiwiHead
LSU Fan
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
9833 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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18 years later how the hell can they even prove these maladies were caused by where they were on 9/11. It's not like cancer is terribly rare.


A lot of these guys have been having health problems for 16-17 years. Were you born an asswipe??????


BuckyCheese
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Jan 2015
4159 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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If we’re so determined to have Big Brother take care of them, it should be done at the state and local level. And anytime the federal government gets involved in something like this, it is a form of discrimination. You’re essentially allowing the government to pick which firefighters and city employees to provide aid to.


Exactly.

btw-I'm not a libertarian.


NC_Tigah
LSU Fan
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
93574 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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Jon Stewart delivered an epic speech in front of Congress today on behalf of the 9/11 first responders. This shouldn't be a partisan issue. These men and women need our help.
Indeed. But it raises an interesting question –– What is NY/NYC's role in the remedy?


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BuckyCheese
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Jan 2015
4159 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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A lot of these guys have been having health problems for 16-17 years. Were you born an asswipe??????


What about the 11,000, a number someone else threw out, that signed up last year?

It's a money grab.


DyeHardDylan
Auburn Fan
Member since Nov 2011
5199 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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Exactly. btw-I'm not a libertarian.


Well I would say conservative, but that word doesn’t mean anything anymore. Conservative used to mean following the constitution. Now both liberals and people who call themselves conservatives support massive government spending, depending on their issue of choice. It’s the reason we’re trillions of dollars in debt.


BuckyCheese
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Jan 2015
4159 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
Yep. Spending is all good when it makes them feel good.

This is not an issue for the Federal government as the people in question were not employed by the Feds.



FightnBobLafollette
Wisconsin Fan
Member since Oct 2017
6151 posts

re: Mr. Stewart Goes to Washington
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What about the 11,000, a number someone else threw out, that signed up last year?

It's a money grab.



You really are a moron.


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