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Mr. Rosenstein, what is the crime that justifies the Mueller investigation?
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:45 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:45 am
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This is a must read about the travesty of the Mueller investigation that has wasted millions upon millions of dollars on mere process crimes, russians who will never seen the inside of an american court room and a tax cheat that could've been handled by regular FBI and DOJ units.
All the while there is still absolutely no evidence of Russian collusion and obstruction.
This is why and how the Mueller probe was always destined to fail because it was a criminal investigation without a specific crime.
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For precisely what federal crimes is the president of the United States under investigation by a special counsel appointed by the Justice Department?
It is intolerable that, after more than two years of digging — the 16-month Mueller probe having been preceded by the blatantly suspect labors of the Obama Justice Department and FBI — we still do not have an answer to that simple question.
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein owes us an answer.
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To my mind, he has owed us an answer from the beginning, meaning when he appointed Special Counsel Robert Mueller on May 17, 2017. The regulations under which he made the appointment require (a) a factual basis for believing that a federal crime worthy of investigation or prosecution has been committed; (b) a conflict of interest so significant that the Justice Department is unable to investigate this suspected crime in the normal course; and (c) an articulation of the factual basis for the criminal investigation — i.e., the investigation of specified federal crimes — which shapes the boundaries of the special counsel’s jurisdiction.
This last provision is designed to prevent a special counsel’s investigation from becoming a fishing expedition — or what President Trump calls a “witch hunt,”
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In our country, the crime triggers the assignment of a prosecutor, not the other way around.
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Not only have millions of public dollars been expended on Mueller’s investigation; administration officials have had to go into their own pockets, paying millions in legal fees to defend themselves and comply with the special counsel’s demands. Executive officials have been forced to deal with Congress and foreign leaders while hamstrung by criminal suspicion of the president. Trump aside, the signal has gone out to the meritorious people we should want to serve in future administrations: Why leave your prestigious, profitable job to serve in government and risk financial and reputational ruin?
Congressional Republicans are letting this happen because they don’t want to stick their necks out for Donald Trump. Yet this is not solely about Donald Trump, much as he seems determined to frame it that way. It is about a constitutional office that is far more critical than any current incumbent.
This is a must read about the travesty of the Mueller investigation that has wasted millions upon millions of dollars on mere process crimes, russians who will never seen the inside of an american court room and a tax cheat that could've been handled by regular FBI and DOJ units.
All the while there is still absolutely no evidence of Russian collusion and obstruction.
This is why and how the Mueller probe was always destined to fail because it was a criminal investigation without a specific crime.
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:56 am to Sentrius
I have always called this Create a Crime. "Perjury Traps?" Screw Bob Mueller and the horse he rode in on, namely Rod Rosenstein.
The day after the midterms that weasel needs to be out on his ear. If the Elf doesn't like it he can walk too and then that mess of a DOJ can be cleaned up.
Put a REAL AG in there and name a REAL Special Prosecutor that will rain Hell down on those that have played fast and loose with the laws trying to bring down this President.
The day after the midterms that weasel needs to be out on his ear. If the Elf doesn't like it he can walk too and then that mess of a DOJ can be cleaned up.
Put a REAL AG in there and name a REAL Special Prosecutor that will rain Hell down on those that have played fast and loose with the laws trying to bring down this President.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 9:59 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:57 am to Sentrius
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 3:03 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:01 am to Sentrius
Staunch libertarian, JuiceTerry, will be here shortly to convey the traditional libertarian platform of blindly supporting federal prosecutors.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:02 am to DelU249
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The whole russia thing is so retarded I can’t actually believe how seriously it’s treated
It's literally an unproven and unverified quack conspiracy theory that was heavily backed by the outgoing Presidential administration, the media, Never Trumpers in Congress, and Never Trumpers and Obama holdovers in the intelligence community.
I have never seen a conspiracy theory do this much damage before. It not only damaged the Presidency but political discourse in this country. Those who peddled it and still are today are severely fricked up people that has no shame and sense of conscience.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:04 am to Sentrius
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, what is the crime that justifies the Mueller investigation?
IT WAS HER TURN GODDAMNIT
Trump ruined the globalist DC career politicians dream of solidified ultimate power. They were very close. And America is not out of the woods yet.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 10:05 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:05 am to Sentrius
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what is the crime that justifies the Mueller investigation?
There was no crime.
The DOJ and FBI under the Obama Administration for the first time in the history of the United States used the FBI and DOJ to investigate a person, not a crime.
That is a MAJOR civil rights violation. MAJOR and someone needs to pay the consequences. Who approved this police state shite? Answer that question and you have your criminals.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:10 am to GumboPot
The question I have is why Trump has not dropped the hammer on Sessions and the key to it all, Rosenstein?
Sessions is either compromised or just plain incompetent, but the key is Rosenstein. Fire him and Mueller's cover is all gone.
I think the insurance policy that has been referred to was Rosenstein naming a Special Counsel. I will always think they have had something on Sessions neutering him, and Rosenstein has been part of this all along.
Sessions is either compromised or just plain incompetent, but the key is Rosenstein. Fire him and Mueller's cover is all gone.
I think the insurance policy that has been referred to was Rosenstein naming a Special Counsel. I will always think they have had something on Sessions neutering him, and Rosenstein has been part of this all along.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 10:13 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:12 am to Sentrius
Hard to shed any tears with all these high profile indictments and guilty pleas
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:13 am to Sentrius
Fraudulent FISAs. "Bad cop is going down" (DiGenova, former Fed Prosecutor).
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:13 am to Tigerdev
Really? Were any of them for conspiracy with the Russians? No.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 10:14 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:17 am to Tigerdev
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Hard to shed any tears with all these high profile indictments and guilty pleas
Mother fricker name one person from the Trump campaign who has been indicted for or plead guilty to Russian collusion.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:17 am to Sentrius
Apparently Trump firing Comey was such a big crime that rosenstein started the special investigation.
Nevermind that rosenstein was the one that recommended that Comey be fired.
Nevermind that rosenstein was the one that recommended that Comey be fired.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:18 am to antibarner
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why Trump has not dropped the hammer on Sessions and the key to it all, Rosenstein?
They're gone after the midterms.
Trump is not going to risk losing the senate by firing Sessions or Rosenstein and prompt a huge backlash.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:20 am to GumboPot
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The DOJ and FBI under the Obama Administration for the first time in the history of the United States used the FBI and DOJ to investigate a person, not a crime.
Obama's legacy:
Purposefully weaponized the IRS as a tool to attack political opponents.
Purposefully weaponized the Intellegnce Community against private citizen political opponents without cause or allegation of crime.
Actively discussed refusing to share top secret information with an incoming elected president because he was a political opponent.
Created a federal government buying mandate enforced upon private citizens.
What else can we add to this list?
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:24 am to Sentrius
If he loses the House and fires them that will be the excuse the Dems use for impeachment. But they would impeach him for being alive at this point.
I hope he drops the hammer Day One after the midterms and has replacements ready to go. At that point it's hardball time. Get a new AG in there that will name a new SP and then start rooting out the real bad guys. One of them has big ears by the way.
I hope he drops the hammer Day One after the midterms and has replacements ready to go. At that point it's hardball time. Get a new AG in there that will name a new SP and then start rooting out the real bad guys. One of them has big ears by the way.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 10:25 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:26 am to antibarner
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If he loses the House and fires them that will be the excuse the Dems use for impeachment.
You still need the senate to convict and remove.
Trump is not going to do anything that could risk putting the senate in real danger of flipping to democrats and firing Sessions/Rosenstein qualifies as that.
Trump needs the GOP to keep at least one chamber to protect himself.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:28 am to NIH
There's no way I'm going to defend Trump appointee Jeff Sessions lying to Congress about Russian contacts as a campaign staffer, thereby setting off his recusal. Nor will I defend Trump appointee Rod Rosenstein appointing a special counsel after Trump publicly and unequivocally stated that he fired the FBI director because of the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
This is all a travesty
God bless America and Roll damn Tide
This is all a travesty
God bless America and Roll damn Tide
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:30 am to JuiceTerry
It's like completely impossible to you for employees to screw their boss over. 
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:31 am to antibarner
Mueller and Rosenstein are scum that will get their due justice eventually. The establishment is morally corrupt to the very core
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