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re: More evidence of Google filtering search results. Updated with real time video of search

Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:25 am to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:25 am to
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Well Ive proved it to be true


And that’s fine. Unfortunately, with an absolute claim, all it takes is one piece of evidence showing the contrary for that claim to crumble into dirt.

If I say “all birds fly” and you come up and show me a dodo bird, guess what? I’m a liar. Doesn’t matter if all of the other species of birds fly. My absolute statement is false.

Just like the absolute statement “Hillary Clinton’s em” doesn’t autocorrect to “Hillary Clinton’s emails” on google is incorrect.

Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:25 am to
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What I did say, however, was that Hillary Clinton’s em DOES autofill to Hillary Clinton’s emails on mobile.
Not on mine.

So, I think it's probably more accurate to say, you proved it is autofilling on YOUR mobile.

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37681 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:27 am to
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Of course you didn't.


Right. I just photoshopped all my pictures and edited my video to prove the OP wrong.

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You haven't even yet established there is no manipulation in search characteristics (Hillary vs others) on your own platforms.


That wasn’t what was challenged by the OP. Now was it?
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You have established a variance between some mobile devices, and between mobile devices and computers. That is certainly of interest. But there is no question Google is manipulating exactly as the OP holds. None! It is not even a debatable point.


No. It just PROVES A frickING ABSOLUTE STSTEMENT FALSE

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Your observations, at best, simply establish Google is screwing with something less than 100% of it's searches.


It’s like I’m talking to a brick wall
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:28 am to
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What I did say, however, was that Hillary Clinton’s em DOES autofill to Hillary Clinton’s emails on mobile. Which it does.
Not on my mobile devices, and not on others'.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:29 am to
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Not on mine


That’s fine. Doesn’t need to be. Don’t you love absolute statements?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:29 am to
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beerJeep



I'd like to point out that in your video, emails is 3rd down.

My searches only generate 2 autofills. Perhaps that's a setting. Maybe if I had mine set to generate 3-4 autofills, I'd get emails.

But, that's still weird because literally every other famous person I typed in, email was the first auto fill.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37681 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:29 am to
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Not on my mobile devices, and not on others'.


Prove it. Screen cap a video like I did. You have an iPhone X so you should have no issue.


Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37681 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:31 am to
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I'd like to point out that in your video, emails is 3rd down.


Never said differently.
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My searches only generate 2 autofills. Perhaps that's a setting. Maybe if I had mine set to generate 3-4 autofills, I'd get emails.


Mines on the default setting and idk how or what to change to alter that.

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But, that's still weird because literally every other famous person I typed in, email was the first auto fill.


Probably so. But we aren’t talking about anyone else. We’re talking about how google “never” autofills “Hillary Clinton’s em” to Hillary Clinton’s emails.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:31 am to
Dude. Lots of us are having the same results. Not sure why this is so important to you.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37681 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:35 am to
Because I don’t understand how homeboy can sit here and tell me I’m lying when I have photographic and video proof. All he’s doing now is crawfishing and moving the goal post.

But uh uh uh like. Uh. It’s 3rd on the list. Uh uh uh mobile. Uh uh uh it’s your recent searches.

,just admit that absolute statements are bullshite. Especially when talking about a search engine that is beyond easy to manipulate from the outside.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:35 am to
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Right. I just photoshopped all my pictures
Wow, are you lucid?
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That wasn’t what was challenged by the OP. Now was it?
It was EXACTLY what was challenged by the OP.

If an autofill search string loads 10th vs 1st due to engine manipulation, that equates to filtering.

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It’s like I’m talking to a brick wall
Does Google filter autofill search results? Yes or No?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37681 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:37 am to
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Wow, are you lucid?


You tell me mr all I talk in is absolutes.
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was EXACTLY what was challenged by the OP.


What’s challenged by the op is whether or not “Hillary Clinton’s em” autocorrects to “Hillary Clinton’s emails”

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Does Google filter autofill search results? Yes or No?


Link me where i said they don’t
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86360 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:37 am to
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Because I don’t understand how homeboy can sit here and tell me I’m lying when I have photographic and video proof.
It's not that your lying. It's that you don't understand how this works.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37681 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:38 am to
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It's not that your lying. It's that you don't understand how this works.


No. I definitely know how it works. Do you know how absolute statements work? Because that is what the op is. And I disproved that absolute statement.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:40 am to
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Probably so. But we aren’t talking about anyone else. We’re talking about how google “never” autofills “Hillary Clinton’s em” to Hillary Clinton’s emails.

Well. I'm not terribly concerned with the OPs absolute.

CLEARLY, there is some odd difference between how she's being handled vs people similar to her which, given that she's the only one with a recent email scandal, makes for a very odd result.

I mean, I suspect that if you type in Bill Cosby rap.....you'll get "rape" as an autofill in the top couple. If you got it #10 when you searched George Bush rap.......that would be interesting but still, the expected hierarchy.

On the other hand. If it came up 5th for Cosby and first for Bush, you'd be like WTF???
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135367 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:41 am to
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literally every other famous person I typed in, email was the first auto fill.
and there it is.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:42 am to
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and there it is.

beerjeep wants to act like what you get when you type other people doesn't matter but that's just an odd assertion.

I mean, if you NEVER got email as first autofill for anyone, it wouldn't even be noteworthy to not get it for Hillary either. It would just indicate that email doesn't typically autofill.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37681 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:44 am to
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beerjeep wants to act like what you get when you type other people doesn't matter but that's just an odd assertion.


Because they don’t. The assertion is “Hillary Clinton’s em” does not autofill to “Hillary Clinton’s emails”

Anything besides that is irrelevant.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135367 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:45 am to
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Link me where i said they don’t
Does Google filter autofill results relative to negative Hillary Clinton searches? Yes or No?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37681 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:46 am to
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Does Google filter autofill results relative to negative Hillary Clinton searches? Yes or No?


Absolutely. Never claimed otherwise.

I did, however, go against the SPECIFIC claim that Hillary Clinton’s em doesn’t autofill to Hillary clintons emails. Which I backed up with photo and video proof.
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