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re: More evidence of Google filtering search results. Updated with real time video of search

Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:08 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:08 am to
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What in the absolute frick does that have to do with this thread?
Your feigned ignorance gets old.
Search results are all about positioning.

If every search of a politician's name + "em" generates "email" as the first term autofill, yet Google auto fills "emails" as the third choice under "Hillary Clinton em", that represents manipulation. Certainly, it does when the autofill drops off entirely.

And BTW, after checking the searches on a couple of iphones with identical results, I find your contention about the search on your wife's iphone dubious.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:45 am to
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I find your contention about the search on your wife's iphone dubious.
I honestly couldn't care any less

You've been show a real-time video and continue to look like a fool

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:01 am to
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You've been show a real-time video
Of what?

The fact that on android mobile platforms Google performs differently?

Your feigned ignorance notwithstanding, differences in platforms isn't really the issue is it now? Differences in results on the same platform is what is at issue.

So again, where does the autofill for "email" in other politician searches fall relative to Hillary even on your device? Does it still come up as #3 or 4? Or is it in the #1 spot as is the case apparently with all other platforms?
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 2:03 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:10 am to
I just switched my browser on phone to Duck Duck go
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 5:33 am to
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 5:56 am to
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I just switched my browser on phone to Duck Duck go


You’ll switch back. I tried DDG for a few weeks because I liked their commitment to privacy, but their search results simply aren’t as good as google. Google dominates for a reason.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:04 am to
Goolge search is parsing for context better than the other search engines.

When there is a novel phrase that has a more narrow expectation of results, it will autofill.

With a term like Hilary Clinton email without quotes, the content will be based on previous search history and news sources.

That is, there's not as much of a neutral response for that phrase so google wants the user to complete to show intent.

As more people type in the phrase and the engine recognizes what is useful info, it will begin to auto suggest.

This is more of a case of machine learning than some grand conspiracy.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:11 am to
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With a term like Hilary Clinton email without quotes, the content will be based on previous search history and news sources.

That is, there's not as much of a neutral response for that phrase so google wants the user to complete to show intent.


So more people are "googling" Joe Bidden emails than Hillary Clinton emails?

This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 7:13 am
Posted by mahdragonz
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:21 am to
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So more people are "googling" Joe Bidden emails than Hillary Clinton emails? 


It's the inverse of that.

The user searching for the phrase Joe Biden emails will most likely be looking for an email address. So if Google presents the page where people can email then there isn't any vagueness in the context of the search or content.

But people searching for hilary clinton email are usually looking for some kind of news information so the search engine needs more info.

The content is so broad with that phrase that Google recognizes it needs more information from the user.

More searches mean it is less likely to autofill.

Its a savvy way to make their search better.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:25 am to
So if I google US I should get no suggestions in the bar right? US is a very broad phrase with many possibilities, what do you think would be the results?
Posted by mahdragonz
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:31 am to
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So if I google US I should get no suggestions in the bar right? US is a very broad phrase with many possibilities, what do you think would be the results?


It depends.

Your location, device, and browser history would be variables in getting a result.

Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:33 am to
Try this one on Google

Hillary Clinton Seth Rich

you get the same results as email

Posted by cyarrr
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:34 am to
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So more people are "googling" Joe Bidden emails than Hillary Clinton emails?




I agree, also emoji is first on the list when em is typed. I find it hard to believe that more users are searching for her emoji than the email scandal.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:38 am to
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Why is it Hillary Clinton e on google but Hillary Clinton em on everyone else?




Look again. There are TWO Hillary searches.

One with just e with two meaningless prompts
One with em with NO prompts directly underneath it

The fact that you missed it proves the point. It has such a small imprint.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:41 am to
I spend $3k / month to advertise my business on Google. I’m about to pull the plug. They make it so confusing on purpose.

I think it might be a waste of money
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:42 am to
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I spend $3k / month to advertise my business on Google


ouch
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:43 am to
Sex cam?
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:43 am to
Brave is my search engine, both on my phone and home devices
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:16 am to
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This is more of a case of machine learning than some grand conspiracy.
So you are suggesting there are far fewer search requests for "Hillary Clinton Email" than for "Bill Clinton Email"?

The search string "John Doe em" even generates John Doe email as the first autofill.
You are suggesting there are more search requests for "John Doe email" than for "Hillary Clinton email"?


Would you like to reconsider your opinion?

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:17 am to
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So you are suggesting there are far fewer search requests for "Hillary Clinton Email" than for "Bill Clinton Email"?

There are apparently more searches for Hillary Clinton Emoji than there are for Hillary Clinton email.

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